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Fair point, Jens Taardad Maiden Send a noteboard - 06/09/2012 07:52:58 PM
Disaster is such a huge word. That's not visible from over here. We mostly see his foreign politics and of course in that regard he was a huge improvement over the catastrophic Bush years.

So, because I honestly don't know, let's talk domestic politics and name a few brief examples:

1. Whose lives has made Obama worse? How? (i.e. housewives, by deciding This.)


2. Can anyone think of people who may have benefit from his decisions?


1) He hasn't made my life worse. In fact, I am stretched to think of anything he's done that has DIRECTLY affected me in the short term...

2) My daughter. Obamacare makes it possible for her to get medical treatment DESPITE having a pre-existing condition (diabetes) and DESPITE my ex-husband refusing to allow her to be covered under his insurance past age 18. This will allow her to find treatment that is affordable and without prejudice.


Fuck me, now I remember why I don't come here very often. Too many stupid arguments without open minds.

<3 hope you're not TOO bored, Jens!
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Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result - New Obama Ad Anonymous2000 - 04/09/2012 04:42:06 AM 1161 Views
The question is not if 4 more Obama years will be better, but if 8 Romney years will be worse. Joel - 04/09/2012 05:06:42 AM 869 Views
Romney may do some good, maybe he won't.....but I know Obama has been a disaster..... Anonymous2000 - 04/09/2012 05:18:01 AM 612 Views
Two honest questions for you, or for anyone saying that. ironclad - 04/09/2012 08:48:35 AM 650 Views
You're not suggesting a discussion are you? Based on arguments? *NM* Artsapat - 04/09/2012 09:23:51 AM 313 Views
Dangerous, I know. *NM* ironclad - 04/09/2012 09:30:58 AM 306 Views
We may have to brace for impact. Stephen - 04/09/2012 09:50:20 AM 566 Views
Watch it you socialist SOB! Anonymous2000 - 04/09/2012 02:08:26 PM 572 Views
Re: Two honest questions for you, or for anyone saying that. Burr - 04/09/2012 02:08:57 PM 658 Views
Easy answers...... Anonymous2000 - 04/09/2012 02:20:28 PM 682 Views
What's Romney saying he's going to do about these things? nossy - 04/09/2012 03:51:20 PM 636 Views
Yes, he's going to repeal ObamaCare and replace it with something better..... Anonymous2000 - 04/09/2012 04:06:55 PM 649 Views
RoBamaCare; fixed that for you. (now with Edit!) Macharius - 04/09/2012 04:11:06 PM 734 Views
By me pointing out that the Dems are bought and paid for..... Anonymous2000 - 04/09/2012 04:21:49 PM 659 Views
I would copyright "Robamacare" if Romney did not have a prior claim. Joel - 04/09/2012 10:15:56 PM 610 Views
Where has he (or anyone) stated what that "something better" is? Joel - 04/09/2012 10:18:36 PM 594 Views
Fair point, Jens Taardad Maiden - 06/09/2012 07:52:58 PM 1042 Views
No, Obama INHERITED a disaster; unemployment is no higher than when he took office. Joel - 04/09/2012 10:13:53 PM 735 Views
a disaster Obama helped to create by forcing sub prime lonas on banks random thoughts - 04/09/2012 10:31:01 PM 695 Views
OMFG, Obama caused the subprime mortgage disaster now? Did he cause Pearl Harbor, too? Joel - 05/09/2012 12:04:37 AM 670 Views
So you agree Clinton is to blame and Bush did nothing but save things with TARP good random thoughts - 05/09/2012 02:41:57 PM 559 Views
You are adept at selective reading: GOP bill, passed by a GOP House and Senate. Joel - 05/09/2012 07:31:29 PM 861 Views
So then you don't Bush for the 2008 when dems controlled both houses? *NM* random thoughts - 05/09/2012 07:36:29 PM 277 Views
Any bills they wrote and passed are primarily on them, even if signed by Bush. Joel - 05/09/2012 08:54:23 PM 656 Views
Unemployment is higher, median income is lower, national debt is higher, gas prices are higher..... Anonymous2000 - 05/09/2012 12:42:27 AM 583 Views
US unemployment February 2009: 8.3% US unemployment now: 8.3% Joel - 05/09/2012 12:53:08 AM 821 Views
Took office unemployment = 7.8% ; Now 8.3% and rising (again) *NM* Anonymous2000 - 05/09/2012 12:57:54 AM 295 Views
How about we count the first full month he was in office. Joel - 05/09/2012 01:05:55 AM 563 Views
Nope..... *NM* Anonymous2000 - 05/09/2012 01:09:24 AM 263 Views
*shrugs* Do what you like, but I doubt the American public willing to cook the books similarly. Joel - 05/09/2012 01:18:46 AM 645 Views
Re: Nope..... Stephen - 05/09/2012 01:38:17 AM 649 Views
I like 5.....sue me! *NM* Anonymous2000 - 05/09/2012 02:37:38 AM 272 Views
You like error. Joel - 05/09/2012 03:05:41 AM 538 Views
Technically, four is acceptable, even proper, if following an excerpt from a sentence. Joel - 05/09/2012 03:00:16 AM 631 Views
Funny how that lets not count the first month rule wasn't applied for Bush *NM* random thoughts - 05/09/2012 02:44:45 AM 257 Views
*shrugs* It was 4.2% in January 2001 and also in February. Joel - 05/09/2012 03:04:53 AM 756 Views
people voted for Obama and look how well that has worked out random thoughts - 04/09/2012 02:29:38 PM 686 Views
+1 - great speeches, but no leadership Anonymous2000 - 04/09/2012 02:33:21 PM 552 Views
Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive. Joel - 04/09/2012 10:25:27 PM 599 Views
sorry but you seem to be dribbling DNC talking point all down your shirt *NM* random thoughts - 04/09/2012 10:28:26 PM 299 Views
Sorry, but I cited hard data. Joel - 04/09/2012 10:35:49 PM 630 Views
funny it sounded word for word like what Axelrod was spouting on the news today random thoughts - 05/09/2012 02:43:46 AM 536 Views
Once again, the beauty of hard facts is they do not change depending on source. Joel - 05/09/2012 02:58:41 AM 712 Views
Speaking about Obama's performance - Food Stamps usage hits new high Anonymous2000 - 04/09/2012 04:53:13 PM 628 Views
So more people are able to eat in hard economic times. Dannymac - 06/09/2012 05:31:38 AM 587 Views
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