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Eh. It's not the beginning of a war, no. Legolas Send a noteboard - 05/09/2012 10:31:52 PM
You can argue which act of war started the war but it seems like it would make sense form a logical point of view to go with the first act of war. I would argue that allowing people to use your country to train and plan attacks on another country is an act of war and the Taliban was the government at the time. Also technically the resumption of violence following the violation of an armistice agreement is really the same war even if it is a decade later.

Seems to me it would make sense to go with, well, common sense. I'm not sure why you're even bothering to deny this, anyway, as I said it wasn't the intention to blame the US for starting those wars (though in the case of Iraq, that doesn't mean I necessarily consider it a good idea, just that I don't feel like arguing about it here).
If anything post war Japan went easier than Germany. The Japanese Emperor agreed to get behind the rebuilding if we agreed to not try them for war crimes that were in some ways worse than what happened with the Nazis and the Japaneses embraced the changes that brought. Most of the Japanese manufacturing and quality process that are so talked about today were created by Americans sent over right after the war. Also MacArthur had almost half a million troops to keep the peace with.

Interesting. I really need to read up on the modern history of Japan - before, during and after WW2.
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It's a terrible model. Tom - 03/09/2012 11:42:36 PM 344 Views
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I recently read Stephen Ambrose's Band of Brothers, about a regiment from the 101st in WW2. Legolas - 04/09/2012 10:29:01 PM 486 Views
wars they didn't start themselves? how do you figure that? random thoughts - 04/09/2012 10:45:07 PM 410 Views
We cannot hold all Afghanistan/Iraq accountable for governments against which they were powerless. Joel - 04/09/2012 11:54:46 PM 450 Views
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True, but we cannot hold people responsible for actions of their undemocratic governments. Joel - 05/09/2012 03:19:20 AM 418 Views
well thanks to the US they now have democratcily elected governments and can be held accountable *NM* random thoughts - 05/09/2012 02:30:41 PM 180 Views
Democratically elected? We will be propping it up with the US Army for at least two more years. Joel - 05/09/2012 07:19:21 PM 446 Views
being propped up by the US military doesn't make it not a democracy random thoughts - 05/09/2012 07:29:42 PM 373 Views
Political power that comes out of the barrel of a gun precludes democracy. Joel - 05/09/2012 09:01:40 PM 455 Views
it was always a lost cost and all governments are backed up by the barrel of a gun random thoughts - 05/09/2012 09:49:51 PM 428 Views
No more so than Iraq, but at least there was a threat to America to fight in Afghanistan. Joel - 23/09/2012 04:51:14 AM 349 Views
I said start. I quite agree with you about the things that went on after the wars themselves ended. Legolas - 05/09/2012 08:51:58 PM 491 Views
shooting at our aircraft is none hostile? random thoughts - 05/09/2012 10:06:07 PM 432 Views
Eh. It's not the beginning of a war, no. Legolas - 05/09/2012 10:31:52 PM 450 Views
An act of war is almost by definition the beginning of a war. Joel - 23/09/2012 04:58:25 AM 438 Views
It is very difficult to reconcile this post with Toms. Joel - 04/09/2012 11:50:06 PM 387 Views
Yes, I noticed that. Legolas - 05/09/2012 09:27:14 PM 429 Views
Apparently I only THOUGHT I responded to this post (sorry.) Joel - 23/09/2012 04:30:47 AM 443 Views
Hey, remember when Bush invaded Iraq? For no reason at all, it turned out? beetnemesis - 03/09/2012 01:56:49 AM 372 Views
Realistically, I don't think Romney would do MUCH different. But that little bit... Tom - 03/09/2012 02:19:14 AM 394 Views
After all the moeny he took from Sheldon Adelson he HAS to attack Iran. Adelson will foot the bill. *NM* Aisha - 03/09/2012 05:19:27 AM 152 Views
Thanks Tom, Joel, and Legolas. *NM* Burr - 03/09/2012 03:56:56 PM 133 Views
I don't think Romney is that interested in starting a war with anyone random thoughts - 04/09/2012 02:39:14 PM 456 Views
Re: Biden claims Romney wants war with Syria and Iran. everynametaken - 05/09/2012 04:22:51 AM 424 Views
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