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it was always a lost cost and all governments are backed up by the barrel of a gun random thoughts Send a noteboard - 05/09/2012 09:49:51 PM
Without force there is no government just a bunch of guys making suggestions. If guns are used to protect the ballot box, as they were in Iraq, then you have the first to democracy. True democracy requires a change of power decided by the ballot box and they don't really have that yet.

I Iraq there was a society that was being repressed and they were liberated. Some people used that liberation to try and get revenge for the previous repression but the foundations for a modern society were there. None of that is true in Afghanistan now and it wasn't true ten years ago.
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so what? Governments habe always been who goes to war - 05/09/2012 02:55:25 AM 469 Views
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it was always a lost cost and all governments are backed up by the barrel of a gun - 05/09/2012 09:49:51 PM 428 Views
I said start. I quite agree with you about the things that went on after the wars themselves ended. - 05/09/2012 08:51:58 PM 491 Views
shooting at our aircraft is none hostile? - 05/09/2012 10:06:07 PM 432 Views
Eh. It's not the beginning of a war, no. - 05/09/2012 10:31:52 PM 449 Views
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It is very difficult to reconcile this post with Toms. - 04/09/2012 11:50:06 PM 387 Views
Yes, I noticed that. - 05/09/2012 09:27:14 PM 428 Views
Apparently I only THOUGHT I responded to this post (sorry.) - 23/09/2012 04:30:47 AM 442 Views
Thanks Tom, Joel, and Legolas. *NM* - 03/09/2012 03:56:56 PM 132 Views
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