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I don't really buy that..... Anonymous2000 Send a noteboard - 01/09/2012 08:33:28 PM
Both were talking about the first steps of government.....everything was tiny and small about the federal government, well, until FDR. So I wouldn't classify either as "big government".

But yes, Jefferson as President did greatly grow the federal government and the power of the Presidency. So.....
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