Does Not a "WE [Not I] BUILT THIS!" Banner Concede Warren and Obama Were Right?
Joel Send a noteboard - 01/09/2012 02:45:52 PM
Convening in a stadium mostly built with municipal (i.e. government) bonds and trotting out successful entrepreneurs to thank Romney and Bain for all the help that got them started is a poor example of self-reliance. It says Staples, Steel Dynamics etc. only succeeded thanks to investor, supplier, employee and consumer contributions IN ADDITION TO (not instead of) its owners notable ones. Successful American businesses are the result of the American economic system, and are therefore community, not individual, achievements. Since the Republican National Convention culminated in that admission, what remains to debate? 
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This message last edited by Joel on 01/09/2012 at 02:46:30 PM
Does Not a "WE [Not I] BUILT THIS!" Banner Concede Warren and Obama Were Right?
- 01/09/2012 02:45:52 PM
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It amazing how much the left doesn't get tis issue
- 01/09/2012 02:55:44 PM
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It is amazing how well every sentence but your last covers the "We [not I] built this" view
- 01/09/2012 03:29:27 PM
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+1 - nicely said. The "built it" comment drives the left crazy, since they know.....
- 01/09/2012 04:25:52 PM
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Nope, it drives us crazy because it's an out-of-context fragment quote
- 01/09/2012 07:01:24 PM
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they all know what he said and context doesn't change it *NM*
- 01/09/2012 07:11:01 PM
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This is the kind of shit that makes me and my family not want to vote Republican.
- 02/09/2012 12:01:01 AM
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Interesting response....
- 02/09/2012 12:07:01 AM
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They're both acting normal (for politicians)
- 02/09/2012 12:12:31 AM
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I disagree; they both did something downright bizarre (again, for politicians; see link.)
- 02/09/2012 12:20:32 AM
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Heh.
- 02/09/2012 12:25:10 AM
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Bah, everyone knows Taxachusetts residents are mad, and tyrants to boot. 
- 02/09/2012 03:04:57 AM
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- 02/09/2012 03:04:57 AM
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Yes the GOP really need to make more effort into trying to win Massachusetts
- 02/09/2012 02:17:49 PM
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Exactly, the context doesn't help. Libs believe government knows all and makes all possible.
- 01/09/2012 08:25:51 PM
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Sigh... what words a quote contains is not a matter of "POV." 
- 01/09/2012 09:01:17 PM
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- 01/09/2012 09:01:17 PM
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Seriously. Like, I'm not debating policy here- I am saying that those are the literal words. *NM*
- 01/09/2012 11:53:39 PM
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I do not understand how that can be debated, yet it keeps happening.
- 02/09/2012 12:03:44 AM
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What should disturb you is what a bunch of unhinged hypocrites your party has become
- 02/09/2012 02:38:34 PM
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I have no party, and have already said mischaracterizing "corporations are people" is just as bad.
- 02/09/2012 04:15:01 PM
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Would you give a me link to where you created post upset about how Romney was being treated?
- 02/09/2012 09:10:03 PM
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Sure; the last time was about three days ago in response to you.
- 02/09/2012 09:20:55 PM
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are you on crack? that is a post of you defending the stupid Bain attacks on Romney
- 02/09/2012 09:30:00 PM
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You brought up Bain there; I merely responded and noted Romneys "corp." line was also misused.
- 02/09/2012 10:12:52 PM
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Joel. That's the thinking of a 12-year-old. You're better than that. *NM*
- 01/09/2012 05:17:25 PM
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Saying "you didn't build that" denigrates individuals is twelve-year-old thinking:I merely note that
- 01/09/2012 05:45:06 PM
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I know what Obama meant to say. If he said it to me I would want to punch him in his liberal mouth.
- 02/09/2012 12:23:47 AM
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Ok, I'll put this very naively.
- 02/09/2012 12:36:33 AM
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Obama had his chance.
- 02/09/2012 12:43:25 AM
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True, I think. I just wish the RNC had taken a more concrete approach like you did. Could fuck them. *NM*
- 02/09/2012 12:52:58 AM
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"The Democratic health care bill that bears Obama's name for no good reason"
- 02/09/2012 03:44:18 AM
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and you really want us to believe it is a few comments that are keeping you from voting republican? *NM*
- 02/09/2012 02:40:13 PM
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Your suggestion that what I floated to Tom is somehow antithetical to the GOP is laughable. *NM*
- 02/09/2012 05:29:33 PM
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In fairness to rt, that sounds a lot like a welfare state, which is pretty antithetical to the GOP.
- 02/09/2012 07:10:47 PM
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Most are willing to enter the debate, and give a measure of ground. Hence Romneycare. *NM*
- 02/09/2012 10:40:21 PM
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Fair enough, but once the show goes national we get Romneys pledge to repeal Romneycare.
- 02/09/2012 11:10:55 PM
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"If you don't want to root for your team, then you should get the hell out of the stadium."
- 02/09/2012 02:15:11 AM
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Your political philosophy seems based on ignoring the difference between voluntary & compulsory
- 02/09/2012 12:38:50 AM
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Yours seems based on ignoring the "WE THE PEOPLE" at the top of the document creating US government.
- 02/09/2012 02:48:45 AM
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I think there is something to be said for charitable interpretation.
- 02/09/2012 02:10:10 AM
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I am not sure what the best argument against the best reading of his argument would be.
- 02/09/2012 03:13:46 AM
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I don't think so
- 02/09/2012 01:47:03 PM
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True, but self-reliant individualism goes poorly with plural nouns.*
- 02/09/2012 04:18:22 PM
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