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a 58-2 record in arbitration suggests something is not quite right, imho moondog Send a noteboard - 29/08/2012 04:02:59 PM
of course, i can't find any info on the two losses so i'm sorry i can't offer more than just conjecture as to why arbitration is so successful for USADA. but, by its nature, arbitration is the last word in a dispute, so there will be no appeal once the decision comes down, otherwise it's mediation and not arbitration. the process seems to be stacked against the athletes in general, not just specific to lance armstrong himself. but then, i am a less than casual fan of cycling and a non-interested party in this particular drama so i'm not going to pretend i have a stake in this story.

i will end with this though: if armstrong cheated, then yes he deserves to have whatever punishment is fitting to someone who took drugs to gain an advantage over his competitors. but if the world of cycling is as corrupt as you insinuated in your previous post, then perhaps the entire sport should be done away with and everyone who participates should find another sport to occupy their need to compete. i am thinking about previous replies to this thread showing that the vast majority of the top riders in the tours armstrong won were all convicted of doping, and your previous post saying the UCI can't be trusted and i am wondering what exactly is holding it all together? if all the top riders cheat, and the agency involved with enforcement is mishandling samples, and the agency involved in creating the rules and awards is on the take, what the hell is everyone still competing for?
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Lance Armstrong - drugs cheat. - 24/08/2012 10:51:35 AM 1455 Views
You mean giving up in disgust after relentless hounding? - 24/08/2012 11:34:05 AM 764 Views
No, I meant what I said - 24/08/2012 12:08:05 PM 844 Views
Delighted - 24/08/2012 12:21:12 PM 722 Views
Re: Delighted - 24/08/2012 12:36:20 PM 984 Views
you think the case against Contador is fishy but you cheerlead the witch hunt of Armstong? - 25/08/2012 04:11:23 AM 747 Views
No. Can you please reread what I actually wrote. - 25/08/2012 09:46:47 AM 659 Views
Snoop = hypocrite - great job random! *NM* - 25/08/2012 04:27:38 PM 396 Views
Damage to cycling? LMAO good one! *NM* - 24/08/2012 03:23:48 PM 345 Views
Yea I choked up a bit when I read that - 25/08/2012 12:09:13 AM 771 Views
Sad thing is I wondered who would be awarded the victory now his have been stripped... - 24/08/2012 05:31:20 PM 728 Views
And this is why I have a hard time blaming Armstrong. - 24/08/2012 06:16:14 PM 776 Views
I don't. - 24/08/2012 11:51:14 PM 783 Views
Oh come on. - 25/08/2012 01:18:18 AM 950 Views
Yes? - 25/08/2012 10:07:34 AM 844 Views
No. - 25/08/2012 12:53:49 PM 853 Views
Oh. - 26/08/2012 05:28:50 PM 854 Views
Hopefully they will leave the 1st places empty - 24/08/2012 11:44:49 PM 681 Views
That is one of things I find suspicious about the denials. - 26/08/2012 03:01:30 AM 769 Views
Re: That is one of things I find suspicious about the denials. - 26/08/2012 05:32:38 PM 746 Views
It is not proof, only far from conclusive evidence. - 26/08/2012 11:02:38 PM 777 Views
I really don't know anymore what to think on Armstrong. - 24/08/2012 06:53:04 PM 761 Views
Re: I really don't know anymore what to think on Armstrong. - 24/08/2012 11:59:14 PM 847 Views
Haters gotta hate. Its not like he's gonna get a fair hearing. *NM* - 24/08/2012 10:25:18 PM 356 Views
Yeah, they were going to use evidence and everything against him and not cower before his bullying - 25/08/2012 12:01:44 AM 661 Views
Nevermind, saw your post up above *NM* - 25/08/2012 01:05:03 AM 367 Views
Your reaction seems kinda over the top and spiteful, what's up with that? - 25/08/2012 01:15:12 AM 882 Views
Pleasure at seeing someone who has bullied and blustered for so long faced with justice. - 25/08/2012 10:11:15 AM 755 Views
You are a very small-minded person. - 25/08/2012 04:26:46 PM 772 Views
And you are a very annoying person. - 25/08/2012 06:06:50 PM 770 Views
In the immortal words of Anonymous2000 ... "+1" - 25/08/2012 06:32:10 PM 852 Views
-1 - 25/08/2012 10:23:25 PM 684 Views
I don't think 'nemesis' is a term that should be used regarding sporting events - 25/08/2012 07:51:35 PM 826 Views
Heh. This exchange is reminding me of Yes, Minister. - 25/08/2012 10:04:59 PM 705 Views
I've actually seen that show - 26/08/2012 05:33:31 AM 798 Views
As Legolas said, I think it is apprioriate - 26/08/2012 05:36:08 PM 641 Views
I'm really not in a position to judge, though obviously I'm inclined to disagree - 26/08/2012 05:41:49 PM 711 Views
Fair enough *NM* - 26/08/2012 05:47:36 PM 387 Views
i've got ten RAFOlk who testify they saw you punch babies, you should be stripped of posting here - 25/08/2012 04:09:53 PM 704 Views
+1 - Anyone that thinks this isn't a sham/witch hunt is a moron. *NM* - 25/08/2012 04:23:55 PM 362 Views
You're not stupid, so I'm going to assume you know why your post is nonsense. - 26/08/2012 05:37:49 PM 631 Views
he will lose in arbitration, whether or not he is innocent. that's the point - 28/08/2012 03:55:38 PM 793 Views
Why? And "because Lance says so" isn't a valid argument, neither is "they have too much evidence" - 28/08/2012 05:55:24 PM 805 Views
a 58-2 record in arbitration suggests something is not quite right, imho - 29/08/2012 04:02:59 PM 884 Views
but he was the guy who had cancer - 26/08/2012 12:26:34 AM 692 Views
I refer you to the Goldman dilema - 26/08/2012 05:41:26 PM 589 Views
but that's just dumb *NM* - 26/08/2012 10:23:34 PM 457 Views
Well - 27/08/2012 09:32:30 AM 960 Views
On that first point - 27/08/2012 10:37:34 AM 796 Views

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