a 58-2 record in arbitration suggests something is not quite right, imho
moondog Send a noteboard - 29/08/2012 04:02:59 PM
of course, i can't find any info on the two losses so i'm sorry i can't offer more than just conjecture as to why arbitration is so successful for USADA. but, by its nature, arbitration is the last word in a dispute, so there will be no appeal once the decision comes down, otherwise it's mediation and not arbitration. the process seems to be stacked against the athletes in general, not just specific to lance armstrong himself. but then, i am a less than casual fan of cycling and a non-interested party in this particular drama so i'm not going to pretend i have a stake in this story.
i will end with this though: if armstrong cheated, then yes he deserves to have whatever punishment is fitting to someone who took drugs to gain an advantage over his competitors. but if the world of cycling is as corrupt as you insinuated in your previous post, then perhaps the entire sport should be done away with and everyone who participates should find another sport to occupy their need to compete. i am thinking about previous replies to this thread showing that the vast majority of the top riders in the tours armstrong won were all convicted of doping, and your previous post saying the UCI can't be trusted and i am wondering what exactly is holding it all together? if all the top riders cheat, and the agency involved with enforcement is mishandling samples, and the agency involved in creating the rules and awards is on the take, what the hell is everyone still competing for?
i will end with this though: if armstrong cheated, then yes he deserves to have whatever punishment is fitting to someone who took drugs to gain an advantage over his competitors. but if the world of cycling is as corrupt as you insinuated in your previous post, then perhaps the entire sport should be done away with and everyone who participates should find another sport to occupy their need to compete. i am thinking about previous replies to this thread showing that the vast majority of the top riders in the tours armstrong won were all convicted of doping, and your previous post saying the UCI can't be trusted and i am wondering what exactly is holding it all together? if all the top riders cheat, and the agency involved with enforcement is mishandling samples, and the agency involved in creating the rules and awards is on the take, what the hell is everyone still competing for?
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Lance Armstrong - drugs cheat.
24/08/2012 10:51:35 AM
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Delighted
24/08/2012 12:21:12 PM
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Re: Delighted
24/08/2012 12:36:20 PM
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you think the case against Contador is fishy but you cheerlead the witch hunt of Armstong?
25/08/2012 04:11:23 AM
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Eh, I suspect the prevailing national narratives are going to vary some
24/08/2012 02:01:52 PM
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Sad thing is I wondered who would be awarded the victory now his have been stripped...
24/08/2012 05:31:20 PM
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And this is why I have a hard time blaming Armstrong.
24/08/2012 06:16:14 PM
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Hopefully they will leave the 1st places empty
24/08/2012 11:44:49 PM
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That is one of things I find suspicious about the denials.
26/08/2012 03:01:30 AM
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Or... maybe he has better things to do with his life than fight an endless witch hunt. *NM*
24/08/2012 06:15:42 PM
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Nah, the bully just ran into something that wouldn't back down and has gone crying. *NM*
24/08/2012 11:51:50 PM
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Haters gotta hate. Its not like he's gonna get a fair hearing. *NM*
24/08/2012 10:25:18 PM
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Yeah, they were going to use evidence and everything against him and not cower before his bullying
25/08/2012 12:01:44 AM
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Your reaction seems kinda over the top and spiteful, what's up with that?
25/08/2012 01:15:12 AM
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Pleasure at seeing someone who has bullied and blustered for so long faced with justice.
25/08/2012 10:11:15 AM
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You are a very small-minded person.
25/08/2012 04:26:46 PM
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And you are a very annoying person.
25/08/2012 06:06:50 PM
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I don't think 'nemesis' is a term that should be used regarding sporting events
25/08/2012 07:51:35 PM
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As Legolas said, I think it is apprioriate
26/08/2012 05:36:08 PM
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I'm really not in a position to judge, though obviously I'm inclined to disagree
26/08/2012 05:41:49 PM
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i've got ten RAFOlk who testify they saw you punch babies, you should be stripped of posting here
25/08/2012 04:09:53 PM
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+1 - Anyone that thinks this isn't a sham/witch hunt is a moron. *NM*
25/08/2012 04:23:55 PM
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You're not stupid, so I'm going to assume you know why your post is nonsense.
26/08/2012 05:37:49 PM
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he will lose in arbitration, whether or not he is innocent. that's the point
28/08/2012 03:55:38 PM
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Why? And "because Lance says so" isn't a valid argument, neither is "they have too much evidence"
28/08/2012 05:55:24 PM
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a 58-2 record in arbitration suggests something is not quite right, imho
29/08/2012 04:02:59 PM
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Yes - clearly the USADA are far too conservative in their approach and should bring more charges
29/08/2012 04:38:34 PM
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but he was the guy who had cancer
26/08/2012 12:26:34 AM
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I refer you to the Goldman dilema
26/08/2012 05:41:26 PM
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but that's just dumb *NM*
26/08/2012 10:23:34 PM
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I'd guess it is a sign of the drive to win needed to be a top sportsperson
26/08/2012 10:51:20 PM
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