How many people really cared if Bush made an ass of himself and bombed a country or two? The Iraq invasion was mismanaged and ended up costing more American lives than it would have if properly run, and that is obviously bad, but the rest of Bush's gaffes were inconsequential to the lives of everyday Americans.
It was better in 2004, but no picnic, and Dems gearing up for the election in '03 planned to run against Bushs till-then awful economic record of disasters like:
The dotcom bubble bursting,
Enron, Worldcom and the Wall Street accounting firms that knowingly hid their fraud and, of course,
The stock crash after a federal government that knew Al Qaeda agents were in the US, learning to fly jets and targeting the WTC (again) could not connect the LINE, much less dots. Inconsequential to the lives of Americans? Really?
All the economic disasters so horrible they had to be blamed on Clinton even after Bush had been in office three years. It got better BY COMPARISON in 2004 and took the issue away from Kerry, only to completely collapse shortly afterward (though that obviously did not influence the '04 campaign.)
By that standard, Obama should be re-elected on similar improvement. The Dow is about double what it was the day he was inaugurated; you should be dancing in the streets, because I recall no president who witnessed similar gains in four years, especially during a decade long double-dip recession. The second half of that dip hit about a month before the election, so unemployment hit 10% before Obama had been in office a year; it is down 2% since. If small but real improvement on enduring recession justifies re-election, well, four more years.
Nah, this is just another filthy rich MA waffle against a charismatic but incompetent/uncommitted incumbent. If Bushs economic accomplishments to this point were even marginally greater than Obamas (doubtful,) that must be offset by killing bin Laden and getting out of Iraq. A month ago I could not see any real difference between Obama, Romney OR Bush, but after a week or two of Republicans demanding SS and Medicares abolition to give Romney a tax cut, a constitutional abortion ban with no exceptions, suddenly Dems are noticeable distinct from Republicans again.
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Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!
LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
I encourage anyone planning on voting in the US elections this November to watch both conventions.
27/08/2012 11:38:31 PM
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Re: I encourage anyone planning on voting in the US elections this November to watch no conventions.
27/08/2012 11:43:07 PM
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You're not properly using a "Re:" tag if you are changing the subject line. *NM*
28/08/2012 12:42:13 AM
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Unless you're Roh. *NM*
28/08/2012 09:56:01 PM
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I'm not sure why the rules of the English language wouldn't apply to her in particular. *NM*
29/08/2012 02:05:39 AM
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Because I miss her posts, I guess.
29/08/2012 09:20:23 PM
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One can't say "regarding" unless one has referred to something first.
30/08/2012 09:00:16 PM
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God already decided the GOP convention should be cut short. No arguing with deities. *NM*
28/08/2012 12:03:30 AM
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I may need to see if there is an online stream.
28/08/2012 12:34:07 AM
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The party platform is generally stated, though.
28/08/2012 12:44:04 AM
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Yes, but past conventions also decided it; now it is just reiterated and marketed (or downplayed.)
28/08/2012 01:54:08 AM
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Ive decided to vote for Satan.
28/08/2012 02:42:09 AM
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What else do we need to know? Obama was a disaster for 4 years, everything got worse.....
28/08/2012 04:57:21 AM
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You are right. The Green Party is clearly the sensible choice. *NM*
28/08/2012 08:10:26 PM
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Who??? *NM*
29/08/2012 05:02:27 AM
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The incumbent administration being deemed a 4-year disaster didn't help Kerry defeat Bush. *NM*
28/08/2012 09:28:03 PM
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But that was all in foreign policy. The economy was doing pretty well back then.
29/08/2012 02:04:13 AM
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+1 - the ecomony in 2004 was kicking butt and lead to GWB's reelection, *NM*
29/08/2012 05:05:12 AM
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Only by comparison to the rest of Bushs presidency.
29/08/2012 09:53:20 AM
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You're actually blaming Bush for 9/11 now?
30/08/2012 04:22:05 AM
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He also blames Bush for a Clinton dot-com bubble bursting.
30/08/2012 09:04:38 PM
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Question:
30/08/2012 11:04:35 PM
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You are so delusional it is a waste of time to discuss the matter further.
30/08/2012 11:12:42 PM
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Those sophisticated pets.com investors were driving the Dow at some point?
30/08/2012 11:32:11 PM
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Re: What else do we need to know? Obama was a disaster for 4 years, everything got worse.....
03/09/2012 03:57:00 AM
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I think you're trying to get me to vote "neither."
28/08/2012 03:08:07 PM
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Ideally, I'm trying to just get as many people as possible to not vote Obama.
29/08/2012 02:04:57 AM
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Fox News (!) on Ryan's speech last night.
30/08/2012 09:09:43 AM
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Fox News or a token liberal at Fox News?
30/08/2012 09:23:22 AM
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While I expect it's the latter, I can't help but hope the media will call the RNC out on their lies.
30/08/2012 11:00:20 AM
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They are doing so, but it does not matter.
30/08/2012 03:26:47 PM
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Part of the problem is that trust in media is an all time low and the earned that
30/08/2012 04:49:23 PM
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Much of it is Reagans old PR man creating Fox News to falsely convince people media is untrustworthy
30/08/2012 07:35:19 PM
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Lies is a strong word. If the RNC lies, Obama is postively burning through his pants wardrobe.
30/08/2012 10:04:39 PM
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