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Using an illness doping commonly causes as evidence of doping is reasonable. Joel Send a noteboard - 27/08/2012 04:57:01 AM
It is no smoking gun, given the other large risk factor, but no more unfair nor shameful than using any other side-effect of drug abuse as evidence of drug abuse.
Thus I take your ad hominems as what they are. "Formal argument," indeed. :rolleyes:

We went over this. You don't really understand what ad hominem means.

One of us does not, but as long as we stick to talking about what was said instead of who said it I have no complaint.
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Lance Armstrong - Victim of Witch Hunt of Epic Proportions Anonymous2000 - 25/08/2012 04:22:24 PM 1055 Views
Miguel Indurain - supports Lance Anonymous2000 - 25/08/2012 04:54:28 PM 1013 Views
You realize you're going to make Snoop's head explode, right? *NM* ßelals Girl - 25/08/2012 08:29:16 PM 491 Views
And he does have a very large head. This could get dangerous. nossy - 25/08/2012 09:14:27 PM 706 Views
HA! HA! Lance Armstrong must have kicked his dog or something. Anonymous2000 - 25/08/2012 10:20:31 PM 701 Views
You assume I think his trolling has any credibility, it seems. *NM* snoopcester - 26/08/2012 05:14:45 PM 333 Views
Lighten up a hair, would you? ßelals Girl - 26/08/2012 05:44:28 PM 712 Views
I'm just sayinghe is well known for trolling snoopcester - 26/08/2012 05:46:33 PM 728 Views
Snoop = coward.....he turns tail and runs Anonymous2000 - 26/08/2012 05:50:43 PM 694 Views
Oh dear Anonymous2000 would you be so kind as to show a thread of maturity? *NM* Stephen - 26/08/2012 06:43:11 PM 329 Views
You're like a fourteen-year-old flailing at the keys. Nate - 26/08/2012 07:20:25 PM 678 Views
And testicular cancer, a known side effect of steroid abuse. Joel - 26/08/2012 02:44:18 AM 956 Views
Wow. Using his cancer as evidence against him. You've sunk to a new low. *NM* Ghavrel - 26/08/2012 12:02:32 PM 342 Views
+1 - D-bag comment from Joel. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 26/08/2012 05:48:50 PM 318 Views
Meh. You have not responded to my POSTS, rather than their author, for several years. Joel - 26/08/2012 10:44:52 PM 705 Views
I just did. Using someone's life-threatening illness in an attempt to discredit them is disgusting. Ghavrel - 27/08/2012 04:41:52 AM 664 Views
Using an illness doping commonly causes as evidence of doping is reasonable. Joel - 27/08/2012 04:57:01 AM 767 Views
What is your source that it 'commonly causes' it? Isaac - 27/08/2012 06:15:39 AM 821 Views
You are right, I should not have said, "causes," but "is associated with." Joel - 27/08/2012 07:38:36 AM 931 Views
So, you screwed the pooch and have been proven wrong. Time for you to apologize. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 28/08/2012 05:00:51 AM 334 Views
Fine: I am sorry I did not say, "And testicular cancer, known to be associated with steroid abuse." Joel - 28/08/2012 06:20:03 AM 1017 Views
It's also a side-effect of cycling Sidious - 26/08/2012 04:46:25 PM 1077 Views
Fair point. Joel - 26/08/2012 10:41:21 PM 752 Views
shut up Joel, just shut up *NM* Yunalesca - 26/08/2012 05:42:52 PM 343 Views
No? Joel - 26/08/2012 10:52:06 PM 765 Views
Stir it up, stir it up... *NM* everynametaken - 26/08/2012 09:11:55 AM 417 Views
I actually agree with you. Great Lord of Chaos - 27/08/2012 06:36:55 AM 848 Views
They have no evidence whatsoever. Most folks agree with us, as per numerous..... Anonymous2000 - 28/08/2012 05:04:37 AM 689 Views
Not to rain on your parade or anything, as I'm not entirely convinced either, but... Legolas - 28/08/2012 10:07:56 PM 695 Views
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