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I'm really not in a position to judge, though obviously I'm inclined to disagree Isaac Send a noteboard - 26/08/2012 05:41:49 PM
Even if the sense I used it in is sadly under used now by many people.

I can appreciate wanting anyone who has done something wrong punished, and I really don't know the details, but come on snoop, this is sports not war or international relations. Maybe that's just me, I don't take sports or athletes very seriously but still...

I'm not suggesting this is any thing close to being of the scale of what is going on in Syria etc but with in cycling he and this are big and it is a sport I care about.


Well, we all have our passions I suppose. I won't further interject my thoughts on the matter, I really don't know and honestly don't care about the charges so it wouldn't be proper to discuss them from an admitted stance of ignorance and apathy. I'm sure I have my own interests and hobbies to which I apply greater importance than the Average Joe, but while that makes me a touch of a hypocrite probably to say it, I can't personally see the importance of this matter.
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Lance Armstrong - drugs cheat. snoopcester - 24/08/2012 10:51:35 AM 1451 Views
You mean giving up in disgust after relentless hounding? Ghavrel - 24/08/2012 11:34:05 AM 761 Views
No, I meant what I said snoopcester - 24/08/2012 12:08:05 PM 840 Views
Delighted Mark - 24/08/2012 12:21:12 PM 716 Views
Re: Delighted snoopcester - 24/08/2012 12:36:20 PM 979 Views
you think the case against Contador is fishy but you cheerlead the witch hunt of Armstong? random thoughts - 25/08/2012 04:11:23 AM 742 Views
No. Can you please reread what I actually wrote. snoopcester - 25/08/2012 09:46:47 AM 655 Views
Snoop = hypocrite - great job random! *NM* Anonymous2000 - 25/08/2012 04:27:38 PM 394 Views
Eh, I suspect the prevailing national narratives are going to vary some Larry - 24/08/2012 02:01:52 PM 868 Views
Damage to cycling? LMAO good one! *NM* Dark Knight - 24/08/2012 03:23:48 PM 343 Views
Yea I choked up a bit when I read that Praziquantel - 25/08/2012 12:09:13 AM 766 Views
Sad thing is I wondered who would be awarded the victory now his have been stripped... Wibble - 24/08/2012 05:31:20 PM 725 Views
And this is why I have a hard time blaming Armstrong. Aemon - 24/08/2012 06:16:14 PM 772 Views
I don't. snoopcester - 24/08/2012 11:51:14 PM 780 Views
Oh come on. Legolas - 25/08/2012 01:18:18 AM 945 Views
Yes? snoopcester - 25/08/2012 10:07:34 AM 838 Views
No. Legolas - 25/08/2012 12:53:49 PM 849 Views
Oh. snoopcester - 26/08/2012 05:28:50 PM 848 Views
And this is why doping must be vigorously and strictly punished. Joel - 25/08/2012 11:50:52 PM 849 Views
Hopefully they will leave the 1st places empty snoopcester - 24/08/2012 11:44:49 PM 673 Views
That is one of things I find suspicious about the denials. Joel - 26/08/2012 03:01:30 AM 763 Views
Re: That is one of things I find suspicious about the denials. snoopcester - 26/08/2012 05:32:38 PM 740 Views
It is not proof, only far from conclusive evidence. Joel - 26/08/2012 11:02:38 PM 774 Views
Or... maybe he has better things to do with his life than fight an endless witch hunt. *NM* everynametaken - 24/08/2012 06:15:42 PM 357 Views
Nah, the bully just ran into something that wouldn't back down and has gone crying. *NM* snoopcester - 24/08/2012 11:51:50 PM 358 Views
I really don't know anymore what to think on Armstrong. Legolas - 24/08/2012 06:53:04 PM 756 Views
Re: I really don't know anymore what to think on Armstrong. snoopcester - 24/08/2012 11:59:14 PM 842 Views
Haters gotta hate. Its not like he's gonna get a fair hearing. *NM* Jeordam - 24/08/2012 10:25:18 PM 354 Views
Yeah, they were going to use evidence and everything against him and not cower before his bullying snoopcester - 25/08/2012 12:01:44 AM 658 Views
Nevermind, saw your post up above *NM* ßelals Girl - 25/08/2012 01:05:03 AM 367 Views
Your reaction seems kinda over the top and spiteful, what's up with that? Isaac - 25/08/2012 01:15:12 AM 877 Views
Pleasure at seeing someone who has bullied and blustered for so long faced with justice. snoopcester - 25/08/2012 10:11:15 AM 750 Views
You are a very small-minded person. Anonymous2000 - 25/08/2012 04:26:46 PM 767 Views
And you are a very annoying person. Wibble - 25/08/2012 06:06:50 PM 765 Views
In the immortal words of Anonymous2000 ... "+1" Nate - 25/08/2012 06:32:10 PM 847 Views
-1 Anonymous2000 - 25/08/2012 10:23:25 PM 682 Views
I don't think 'nemesis' is a term that should be used regarding sporting events Isaac - 25/08/2012 07:51:35 PM 825 Views
Heh. This exchange is reminding me of Yes, Minister. Legolas - 25/08/2012 10:04:59 PM 703 Views
I've actually seen that show Isaac - 26/08/2012 05:33:31 AM 795 Views
As Legolas said, I think it is apprioriate snoopcester - 26/08/2012 05:36:08 PM 638 Views
I'm really not in a position to judge, though obviously I'm inclined to disagree Isaac - 26/08/2012 05:41:49 PM 705 Views
Fair enough *NM* snoopcester - 26/08/2012 05:47:36 PM 385 Views
i've got ten RAFOlk who testify they saw you punch babies, you should be stripped of posting here moondog - 25/08/2012 04:09:53 PM 700 Views
+1 - Anyone that thinks this isn't a sham/witch hunt is a moron. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 25/08/2012 04:23:55 PM 361 Views
You're not stupid, so I'm going to assume you know why your post is nonsense. snoopcester - 26/08/2012 05:37:49 PM 630 Views
he will lose in arbitration, whether or not he is innocent. that's the point moondog - 28/08/2012 03:55:38 PM 793 Views
Why? And "because Lance says so" isn't a valid argument, neither is "they have too much evidence" snoopcester - 28/08/2012 05:55:24 PM 803 Views
a 58-2 record in arbitration suggests something is not quite right, imho moondog - 29/08/2012 04:02:59 PM 876 Views
Yes - clearly the USADA are far too conservative in their approach and should bring more charges snoopcester - 29/08/2012 04:38:34 PM 936 Views
but he was the guy who had cancer Yunalesca - 26/08/2012 12:26:34 AM 689 Views
I refer you to the Goldman dilema snoopcester - 26/08/2012 05:41:26 PM 589 Views
but that's just dumb *NM* Yunalesca - 26/08/2012 10:23:34 PM 454 Views
I'd guess it is a sign of the drive to win needed to be a top sportsperson snoopcester - 26/08/2012 10:51:20 PM 655 Views
Well Sidious - 27/08/2012 09:32:30 AM 957 Views
On that first point snoopcester - 27/08/2012 10:37:34 AM 789 Views
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