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And this is why doping must be vigorously and strictly punished. Joel Send a noteboard - 25/08/2012 11:50:52 PM
When one person cheats, he has an unfair advantage over the rest of the field. But when the majority of the field cheats, you have to do the same in order to keep up. Whoever is in charge of enforcing the laws of cycling is obviously doing a woefully inadequate job. This isn't necessarily their fault; I realize that new drugs and doping methods are invented all the time and it's impossible to test for everything. Still, it comes down to the fact that someone who wants to ride clean (and I'm not saying Armstrong was one of those) can't rely on his sport's authority to maintain a level playing field. It is, quite literally, cheat or lose.

I'm not saying that doping is the right thing to do, but it's a problem that needs to be solved at the institutional level. Riders who want to win currently have little choice.

That kind of environment tells young athletes they MUST destroy their bodies with drugs to succeed. It is hard to sympathize much with Armstrongs "heroic" struggle against testicular cancer knowing steroids probablly caused it. I am far more concerned about millions of school kids already taking the same (or worse) drugs, and facing the same (or worse) results, because they want to match his "achievements," or Canseco, Alzedos, etc. If we tell them destroying both the game and their own bodies with drugs is the only way, because those caught doing so face no more than token penalties (if that,) that is the (not so) new normal we create.

Season ban for the first offense, life time ban for the next, and forfeiture of any victories or awards unfairly gained through drugs. I do not care if Michael Phelps mounts the Olympic podium with a bong in hand, because that does not contribute to his performance, and thus does not encourage kids to emulate the same behavior in pursuit of the same results. Performance enhancing drugs are a whole other ball game, one no legitimate sports body can condone in good conscience.

To be clear, I am not disagreeing, only stating another reason I emphatically agree with you.
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Lance Armstrong - drugs cheat. - 24/08/2012 10:51:35 AM 1455 Views
You mean giving up in disgust after relentless hounding? - 24/08/2012 11:34:05 AM 764 Views
No, I meant what I said - 24/08/2012 12:08:05 PM 844 Views
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you think the case against Contador is fishy but you cheerlead the witch hunt of Armstong? - 25/08/2012 04:11:23 AM 747 Views
No. Can you please reread what I actually wrote. - 25/08/2012 09:46:47 AM 659 Views
Snoop = hypocrite - great job random! *NM* - 25/08/2012 04:27:38 PM 396 Views
Damage to cycling? LMAO good one! *NM* - 24/08/2012 03:23:48 PM 345 Views
Yea I choked up a bit when I read that - 25/08/2012 12:09:13 AM 771 Views
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I don't. - 24/08/2012 11:51:14 PM 783 Views
Oh come on. - 25/08/2012 01:18:18 AM 950 Views
Yes? - 25/08/2012 10:07:34 AM 844 Views
No. - 25/08/2012 12:53:49 PM 853 Views
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And this is why doping must be vigorously and strictly punished. - 25/08/2012 11:50:52 PM 852 Views
Hopefully they will leave the 1st places empty - 24/08/2012 11:44:49 PM 681 Views
That is one of things I find suspicious about the denials. - 26/08/2012 03:01:30 AM 769 Views
Re: That is one of things I find suspicious about the denials. - 26/08/2012 05:32:38 PM 746 Views
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I really don't know anymore what to think on Armstrong. - 24/08/2012 06:53:04 PM 761 Views
Re: I really don't know anymore what to think on Armstrong. - 24/08/2012 11:59:14 PM 847 Views
Haters gotta hate. Its not like he's gonna get a fair hearing. *NM* - 24/08/2012 10:25:18 PM 357 Views
Yeah, they were going to use evidence and everything against him and not cower before his bullying - 25/08/2012 12:01:44 AM 661 Views
Nevermind, saw your post up above *NM* - 25/08/2012 01:05:03 AM 367 Views
Your reaction seems kinda over the top and spiteful, what's up with that? - 25/08/2012 01:15:12 AM 882 Views
Pleasure at seeing someone who has bullied and blustered for so long faced with justice. - 25/08/2012 10:11:15 AM 755 Views
You are a very small-minded person. - 25/08/2012 04:26:46 PM 773 Views
And you are a very annoying person. - 25/08/2012 06:06:50 PM 770 Views
In the immortal words of Anonymous2000 ... "+1" - 25/08/2012 06:32:10 PM 853 Views
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I've actually seen that show - 26/08/2012 05:33:31 AM 799 Views
As Legolas said, I think it is apprioriate - 26/08/2012 05:36:08 PM 642 Views
I'm really not in a position to judge, though obviously I'm inclined to disagree - 26/08/2012 05:41:49 PM 711 Views
Fair enough *NM* - 26/08/2012 05:47:36 PM 388 Views
but he was the guy who had cancer - 26/08/2012 12:26:34 AM 692 Views
I refer you to the Goldman dilema - 26/08/2012 05:41:26 PM 589 Views
but that's just dumb *NM* - 26/08/2012 10:23:34 PM 457 Views
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On that first point - 27/08/2012 10:37:34 AM 796 Views

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