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Thank you for making sense. everynametaken Send a noteboard - 12/08/2012 08:01:53 AM
The republican party's biggest shift is toward the libertarian, on what issue has the GOP gotten 'far too out of hand'? We've stopped pushing for larger military spending, we're easing of foreign intervention, we've gotten a lot more relaxed on both drugs and gay rights, and we haven't moved an inch on guns or abortion while the country has shifted more pro-life and more pro-gun.


The clear rejection of vitriolic types like Bachmann and Santorum and the general non-interest in anything Sarah Palin has had to say by the general public and the GOP alike also support this. Even looking at Romney's vetting fo VP candidates show a shift toward more traditional conservative leanings with a touch of Libertarianism rather than to the far right extremes of xenophobia religious extremism.
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Paul Ryan is selected as Republican VP candidate Legolas - 11/08/2012 05:01:47 PM 1848 Views
Personally? No, I'm not voting Republican at all this year. LordPerrin - 11/08/2012 05:18:06 PM 878 Views
Ya know that narrative of the right getting further right is pretty ridicolous Isaac - 11/08/2012 06:43:44 PM 841 Views
it could possibly be the "all or nothing" budget fights and gay marriage among other things moondog - 11/08/2012 08:19:11 PM 884 Views
Yeah, I forgot the Dems are very enlightened about gay marriage now for what? 2 Months? Isaac - 11/08/2012 08:59:17 PM 947 Views
+1 - Great post! *NM* Anonymous2000 - 12/08/2012 04:32:21 AM 527 Views
We're on a roll here Isaac. I agree with you again. everynametaken - 12/08/2012 08:18:32 AM 888 Views
yet despite that, dems didn't put referenda and push bills discriminating against gay people moondog - 12/08/2012 07:55:38 PM 960 Views
They certainly have, they've just done it less and less recently Isaac - 12/08/2012 09:39:53 PM 846 Views
Fred Phelps is 82 Roland00 - 13/08/2012 01:28:01 AM 784 Views
So is Pat Robertson *NM* Isaac - 13/08/2012 02:41:28 AM 504 Views
They're not enlightened at all. Tom - 21/08/2012 02:04:09 PM 1050 Views
Agreed, but ya'll continue doing it anyway. Joel - 11/08/2012 08:24:09 PM 869 Views
I dunno, but from my perspective (and this is from one who doesn't follow politics closely) LordPerrin - 11/08/2012 08:32:43 PM 1079 Views
People say it so much it kinda grinds into the brain Isaac - 11/08/2012 09:17:16 PM 779 Views
Thank you for making sense. everynametaken - 12/08/2012 08:01:53 AM 853 Views
voting third party is a good idea moondog - 11/08/2012 08:15:41 PM 834 Views
I'm sorry, but anyone that votes for Obama after the past 3 and 1/2 years is a moron..... Anonymous2000 - 12/08/2012 03:30:47 AM 781 Views
If you are proud of not voting, please shut up: The adults have a country to run. Joel - 12/08/2012 04:11:49 AM 815 Views
Candidates have to earn my vote - I'm not a slave like you to the 2 party system. Anonymous2000 - 12/08/2012 04:24:02 AM 951 Views
Who said anything about the two-party system? Joel - 12/08/2012 04:29:36 AM 777 Views
No offense intended, but voting third party is as stupid as not voting. Aemon - 12/08/2012 04:42:28 AM 1034 Views
I strongly disagree. Joel - 12/08/2012 05:11:52 AM 866 Views
I'm with Joel on this. There's a big difference between voting third party and not voting. Legolas - 12/08/2012 07:31:29 PM 939 Views
as the saying goes "the lesser of two evils is still evil" moondog - 12/08/2012 08:06:20 PM 865 Views
Nice asshatery. everynametaken - 12/08/2012 07:56:57 AM 1021 Views
Wouldn't you love to have a "none of the above" option..... Anonymous2000 - 12/08/2012 03:36:54 PM 799 Views
Or you could use a PR system and act like responsible adults. *NM* Stephen - 12/08/2012 05:47:14 PM 417 Views
Not voting sends no message but "we will let politicians do as they please." Joel - 12/08/2012 05:12:55 PM 1231 Views
Well there's a difference between not voting at all and not voting in one race Isaac - 12/08/2012 05:55:47 PM 973 Views
Usually only in degree, not kind, though I mostly had the former in mind. Joel - 12/08/2012 07:27:54 PM 912 Views
+1 - Good post. Joel is off the deep end, once again. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 12/08/2012 07:42:23 PM 535 Views
I hope that most of the disenchanted Obama 08 suppoerters feel the same way *NM* random thoughts - 13/08/2012 11:27:15 AM 405 Views
Oh dear. Stephen - 11/08/2012 06:26:07 PM 839 Views
I'm happy with it, I like Ryan Isaac - 11/08/2012 06:47:21 PM 856 Views
What a shock. Legolas - 11/08/2012 08:18:35 PM 985 Views
Most Republicans are fine with gutting Medicare. Joel - 11/08/2012 08:31:03 PM 1076 Views
Everyone with an ounce of common sense is okay with "gutting" Medicare..... Anonymous2000 - 12/08/2012 03:37:17 AM 796 Views
The only thing bankrupting Medicare is unsustainable US healthcare costs eating 20% of US GDP. Joel - 12/08/2012 03:56:28 AM 1106 Views
Silly comment - 30% of Medicare is FRAUD.....and the program is fatally flawed. Anonymous2000 - 12/08/2012 04:09:26 AM 933 Views
So private insurance costs are really growing SIXTY percent faster?! Joel - 12/08/2012 04:24:49 AM 933 Views
Medicare worked for 50 years and SS for 80 because most people were DYING before 65. Anonymous2000 - 12/08/2012 04:29:26 AM 726 Views
Eligibility age for both must increase (SSs has, but not enough.) They are not "unsustainable." Joel - 12/08/2012 04:31:57 AM 725 Views
Medicare is 100% unsustainable in it's current format..... Anonymous2000 - 12/08/2012 04:36:13 AM 806 Views
[citation needed] *NM* moondog - 12/08/2012 08:09:44 PM 540 Views
Re: What a shock. Isaac - 11/08/2012 08:51:12 PM 957 Views
ryan isn't going to help rmoney win wisconsin moondog - 11/08/2012 08:21:27 PM 952 Views
Picking Ryan was an olive branch to the GOP rank and file. Joel - 11/08/2012 08:05:41 PM 1082 Views
definitely a bold pick but not going to help him enough in november moondog - 11/08/2012 08:27:59 PM 898 Views
Since I forgot you asked Americans if it would change our votes: No, still voting Jill Stein (Green) Joel - 11/08/2012 11:07:12 PM 800 Views
Who cares? He's hot. Rebekah - 11/08/2012 11:53:42 PM 1052 Views
So are you a fan of David Cameron? Roland00 - 12/08/2012 12:12:50 AM 716 Views
Lol. Nice one. *NM* everynametaken - 12/08/2012 08:22:01 AM 461 Views
I actually said, "He's not hot enough." Aeryn - 13/08/2012 01:15:58 PM 772 Views
On the plus side, you need not fear Ryans failure to mention abortion and contraception. Joel - 13/08/2012 03:17:45 PM 966 Views
Tigr - 13/08/2012 03:31:38 PM 926 Views
Legolas a question for you, what is your opinion of George W Bush Social Security Plans in 2005? Roland00 - 12/08/2012 01:03:24 AM 795 Views
Didn't know enough about them to have an opinion, honestly. Legolas - 12/08/2012 06:40:22 PM 933 Views
Well Paul Ryan also had a social security plan in 2005 Roland00 - 13/08/2012 12:48:39 AM 932 Views
Wonderful choice! Truly wonderful.....check the video. Anonymous2000 - 12/08/2012 03:22:48 AM 784 Views
Nice video. Legolas - 12/08/2012 06:52:59 PM 880 Views
Can you explain your fascination with Ryans ideas, please? Joel - 13/08/2012 04:08:35 AM 840 Views
No, it doesn't change my opinion any Larry - 12/08/2012 07:50:21 AM 960 Views
I hear even the DNC has rejected its TN Senate nominee. Joel - 12/08/2012 05:46:37 PM 884 Views
Yes, they disavowed him Larry - 12/08/2012 08:00:33 PM 879 Views
Apparently the TN Democratic Party agrees voters should write in someone elses name. Joel - 12/08/2012 08:34:46 PM 859 Views
Does not work in the US Roland00 - 13/08/2012 01:17:58 AM 831 Views
We do not need most of the populace to cast protest votes, only most voters. Joel - 13/08/2012 01:33:41 AM 782 Views
Your distinction misses my greater point Roland00 - 13/08/2012 01:51:26 AM 833 Views
*shrugs* Vote absentee then. Joel - 13/08/2012 02:28:32 AM 863 Views
I was going to vote Romney anyway, so no, it doesn't change anything. Tom - 12/08/2012 10:39:15 PM 862 Views
But I'm guessing you're glad with Ryan? Prefer him over the alternatives? Or not? Legolas - 12/08/2012 10:49:35 PM 1019 Views
I disagree Roland00 - 13/08/2012 12:52:07 AM 883 Views
Bloomberg has imploded Tom - 13/08/2012 07:12:56 PM 789 Views
Bloomberg has become a national laughingstock. everynametaken - 13/08/2012 08:13:24 PM 871 Views
Not as much as either Obama or Romney, surely. Legolas - 13/08/2012 08:23:41 PM 860 Views
Makes sense for you. You are Romney's target audience. Aeryn - 13/08/2012 01:19:26 PM 794 Views
What should Obama have done? Tom - 13/08/2012 07:31:23 PM 833 Views
And how much of that do you expect from Romney? Joel - 14/08/2012 10:21:33 AM 1157 Views
Certainly more than from Obama. Tom - 16/08/2012 12:00:19 AM 775 Views
Mmm, Objectivism. Another reason for me to vote Obama. Ghavrel - 12/08/2012 11:00:34 PM 953 Views
But doesn't he say he detests Rand? Stephen - 12/08/2012 11:53:47 PM 702 Views
No he doesn't disavow Ayn Rand, he still believes in her Roland00 - 13/08/2012 01:15:34 AM 882 Views
Good to know. Stephen - 13/08/2012 08:42:22 AM 893 Views
that is pretty mild of you campare it to the radical influence in Obama's life *NM* random thoughts - 13/08/2012 11:35:52 AM 514 Views
Ah, the classic "it is OK because their guy rapes puppies, too, even though he does not" defense. Joel - 13/08/2012 03:23:29 PM 727 Views
Obama doesn't have a history of openly endorsing the views of said radicals. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/08/2012 12:32:52 AM 557 Views
he has a much closer and more personal realtionship with radicals than Romney or Ryan *NM* random thoughts - 20/08/2012 03:54:17 AM 518 Views
Link to audio of Paul Ryans address to The Atlas Society. Joel - 13/08/2012 03:37:27 AM 1000 Views
Or you could have just read my response which posted prior to yours Roland00 - 13/08/2012 01:45:07 PM 790 Views
Sorry, I completely missed your link. Joel - 13/08/2012 03:09:11 PM 891 Views
Don't get me wrong Roland00 - 13/08/2012 12:53:10 AM 806 Views
Actually I believe he promised to vote for Romney if I did Isaac - 13/08/2012 03:48:35 AM 953 Views
What an amusing retrospective. Joel - 13/08/2012 04:20:02 AM 960 Views
Uh... how exactly did you get to spending and budget timelines? Isaac - 13/08/2012 04:59:45 AM 786 Views
Tangentially, of course. Joel - 13/08/2012 05:08:18 AM 825 Views
I tried reading it again, but my eyes glazed over when you started babbling about lesbian covens. Ghavrel - 14/08/2012 12:30:03 AM 736 Views
It was a hyperbolic reference to the extreme left (one stolen from Matt Groening, btw.) Joel - 14/08/2012 10:12:09 AM 805 Views
Interesting. Ghavrel - 14/08/2012 11:34:30 AM 886 Views
They have a pill for that now. Joel - 14/08/2012 01:14:39 PM 924 Views
I'm pretty sure the solution is you learning elementary composition. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/08/2012 11:33:57 PM 544 Views
Your willful reading incomprehension is neither my fault nor problem. Joel - 16/08/2012 07:40:46 PM 881 Views
I don't think you can succinctly do anything. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/08/2012 09:33:38 PM 545 Views
I just did. Joel - 16/08/2012 09:36:21 PM 859 Views
EDIT: ACK! Hoist on my own petard! Ghavrel - 14/08/2012 12:25:27 AM 816 Views
Disillusioned, sure. But I don't recall ever considering voting Republican. Ghavrel - 14/08/2012 12:31:17 AM 874 Views
No birth control, no right to choose, no planned parenthood? ironclad - 13/08/2012 01:58:51 PM 734 Views
They are really doing a public service that way. *NM* Stephen - 13/08/2012 02:26:39 PM 383 Views
I saw a theory just after the announcement speculating Ryan was chosen as a scapegoat. Joel - 13/08/2012 03:33:56 PM 892 Views
I agree with your statements nossy - 14/08/2012 12:53:41 AM 958 Views
It's mostly nonsense Isaac - 14/08/2012 04:46:11 AM 866 Views
Well nossy - 14/08/2012 02:54:06 PM 1079 Views
'Nonsense' refers to the thing said about the religious right by the media Isaac - 14/08/2012 04:01:47 PM 1083 Views
I'm wondering if "belittles" is the wrong word. nossy - 14/08/2012 06:30:23 PM 1126 Views
Re: I'm wondering if "belittles" is the wrong word. Isaac - 15/08/2012 01:45:59 AM 831 Views
I have to keep this short, because I am on the iPad. nossy - 15/08/2012 05:38:48 AM 782 Views
Triple reply chain is usually a good point for the trim-edit anyway Isaac - 15/08/2012 05:27:20 PM 963 Views
Or shows it's time to quit. nossy - 15/08/2012 10:20:17 PM 1190 Views
Agreed Isaac - 15/08/2012 10:54:05 PM 744 Views
The question, as for Tom, is what you believe Romney would improve for small businesses. Joel - 14/08/2012 01:38:29 PM 905 Views
I am aware of that, thank you. And I don't distill my choice down to small business, either. nossy - 14/08/2012 02:24:24 PM 937 Views
I see your point, but... ironclad - 14/08/2012 02:30:22 PM 724 Views
Well nossy - 14/08/2012 03:09:18 PM 912 Views
Are you really going to let Obama con you into voting for him again? Tom - 21/08/2012 02:00:06 PM 726 Views
I honestly haven't decided. nossy - 21/08/2012 04:13:44 PM 1094 Views
Expanding our perspective does not improve our options much, sadly. Joel - 14/08/2012 04:23:48 PM 850 Views
None of that is that important. everynametaken - 14/08/2012 08:53:10 PM 899 Views
Agreed. *NM* Macharius - 15/08/2012 02:21:55 PM 500 Views
Bullshit Tom - 21/08/2012 01:46:42 PM 917 Views
This makes me more likely to vote R this year. Macharius - 15/08/2012 02:31:06 PM 817 Views
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