How do we know that Giffords saying, "I am afraid of getting shot," didn't lead to the shooting? Wouldn't that be just as likely to inspire a crazed gunman as crosshairs on a map?
I pretend no comprehension of insanity, but would not think so, and Palin putting crosshairs on her district still prompted Giffords' comment, so the source would be unchanged. Regardless, what would be the "logic"? A crazed liberal partisan shooting one of their own representatives to substantiate criticism of Palin?
I'm not as knowledgeable about this particular incident as I could be. I definitely remember it happening, but it's been awhile, and I haven't followed up on it much.
So speaking in a hypothetical sense rather than specifically, hearing a relatively-famous person say, "I am afraid of being shot," seems like enough to set-up a shooting spree as putting crosshairs on a map. But chances are it's something else, or really nothing at all.
It doesn't have to be partisan at all. He doesn't have to be a conservative nutjob obeying "orders" from his leaders or "a crazed liberal partisan shooting one of their own representatives to substantiate criticism of Palin." It could be as simple and incomprehensible as John Lennon's death.
As for the rest... yeah. I agree with a lot, disagree with a lot. Rhetoric is getting heated. It should be toned back on both sides. But to consider it directly responsible for this shooting is unwarranted, IMO.
"And it breaks my heart to look around, and see the unimpressed; who can't believe the emperor is dressed"~Fastball
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Mosque Burned in Missouri ; Sikh Temple attacked...I hope this doesnt encourage copycats.....
06/08/2012 09:05:00 PM
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Government cannot surveill/infiltrate/arrest violent white supremacists: That would be racist.
08/08/2012 08:11:24 PM
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Joel Joel Joel, I see they still haven't found a cure for crazy.
08/08/2012 08:39:04 PM
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Giffords made the allegation against Palin; feel free to tell her she was NOT subsequently shot.
09/08/2012 01:33:50 AM
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You're seriously blaming Palin for Loughner? That's so absurdly debunked at every level *NM*
09/08/2012 02:30:21 AM
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Again, I believe Gabrielle Giffords made that connection, about a year before it was proven valid.
09/08/2012 02:50:10 AM
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Okay, that's bullshit
09/08/2012 02:53:46 AM
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She suggested putting a crosshairs on her district endangered her life; that is now hard to dispute.
09/08/2012 03:50:13 AM
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Easy to dispute. Did Loughner claim to have seen it? Did Christian Bale cause Colorado?
09/08/2012 05:47:59 AM
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Has Loughner said much of anything? Did Christian Bale put a target on CO?
09/08/2012 06:11:17 AM
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Do you realize how crazy you sound?
09/08/2012 10:31:16 PM
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I love how you and rt keep calling me (and, by extension, Giffords, whom I am quoting) crazy.
09/08/2012 11:00:35 PM
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If the shoe fits Joel
10/08/2012 12:11:44 AM
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"If the shoe fits" is precisely my point.
10/08/2012 12:18:17 AM
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Did you lose all ability to make raitonal arguments while you were away?
10/08/2012 01:21:08 AM
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No.
10/08/2012 02:09:26 AM
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person A say B and then C happens that doesn't B was correct even if had similarities to C
10/08/2012 04:26:27 AM
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You believe whatever fits your world view reggardless of facts
09/08/2012 04:49:39 AM
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If you insist on blaming the victim, do it to her face.
09/08/2012 06:09:45 AM
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OK Joel connect the dots for so I grasp your version of reality
09/08/2012 03:08:00 PM
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A: Palin puts crosshairs on Giffords' district. B:Giffords says it endangers her. C:Giffords is shot
09/08/2012 06:35:56 PM
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No Joel I was calling you a Ghoul but I take that as admission that you cannot tie the two together
09/08/2012 08:39:44 PM
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I linked them in the subject line: It was that easy.
09/08/2012 10:37:53 PM
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No Joel you and Harry Reid need to learnt that baseless claims don't have to be disproven
10/08/2012 04:13:38 AM
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To play a little Devil's Advocate:
09/08/2012 07:39:40 PM
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How would that work?
09/08/2012 10:25:25 PM
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Re: How would that work?
10/08/2012 12:15:53 AM
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I read on Twitter where they raised enough money to pay for rebuilding costs in two days
10/08/2012 07:39:31 AM
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