Asked this earlier on Twitter:
When pronouncing "dr" at the beginning, e.g. "dragon," does the "dr" sound like "dj," "j," or "dur"? (Assuming designated English pronunciations for those letters/combinations).
I found myself thinking about this after seeing the scroll on ESPN earlier about the brother of a basketball player, Jrue Holliday. I thought that when I mentally said "Drew," it did sound almost like "Jrue" and that led me to think a bit about the question above.
Curious to see what others have to say on this picayune issue
When pronouncing "dr" at the beginning, e.g. "dragon," does the "dr" sound like "dj," "j," or "dur"? (Assuming designated English pronunciations for those letters/combinations).
I found myself thinking about this after seeing the scroll on ESPN earlier about the brother of a basketball player, Jrue Holliday. I thought that when I mentally said "Drew," it did sound almost like "Jrue" and that led me to think a bit about the question above.
Curious to see what others have to say on this picayune issue
Sorry for the poor technical vocabulary, my phonetics courses go back 25 years and I never learned the terms in English
In French both the "d" and "r" in that pairing are more distinct, sharper and (in some cases. The way we'd pronounce Drew would be one of those) shorter than in English. There's never a hint of "j" in "dr", as there's no d sound to any of our j's either). Pronunciation of dr is not all that different from English, but with a native French speaker the lips would more open and the tongue position different when saying it. "dj" is a soft sound, like that in "bridge"; I used "dj" in part because I was thinking of the Kreyól "dj" to represent that softer sound between "-dge" and "j" in English. Might have helped if I had spelled that out more, knowing that I wasn't using IPA at all
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- 13/07/2012 07:02:35 AM
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Re: /Linguistics: Curious to see how people across the globe pronounce this
- 13/07/2012 12:45:03 PM
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I think I get the picture
- 13/07/2012 10:21:37 PM
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neither.... who says dur-agon? i don't palatalize the cluster. *NM*
- 13/07/2012 05:23:45 PM
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Some Southerners? *NM*
- 13/07/2012 10:18:36 PM
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*NM*
- 13/07/2012 10:18:36 PM
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heh... another interesting feature of aave/southern dialects is str as shtr, i.e. shtress *NM*
- 14/07/2012 04:28:05 PM
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That's not Received Pronunciation. If I were dictator, we would beat people to force them to quit.
- 13/07/2012 09:40:16 PM
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So no "tyune" for "tune"?
- 13/07/2012 10:15:05 PM
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- 13/07/2012 10:15:05 PM
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Not very good with the linguistics terminology, but I just say, well, "dr".
- 13/07/2012 09:54:08 PM
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How are "dj" and "j" supposed to differ? Can I have that in IPA please?
- 13/07/2012 11:49:02 PM
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Sure, if I can copy/paste this in
- 14/07/2012 01:00:04 AM
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