You all remember the mass killing carried out in Norway by Anders Breivik, yes? This is the man that killed 69 people at a Labor Party youth camp last July. I was reading news about his trial and I had to rub my eyes to make sure I was reading it right. His defense, his defense, urged the court to consider him sane while the prosecution urged the court to consider him insane. The prosecution.
What is this, bizarro world? Well, turns out that the maximum prison sentence in Norway is only 21 years, with early parole possible. And I assume that a person can be held more indefinitely at a psychiatric institution. But when have you ever heard of a defense urging sanity and the prosecution urging insanity? That seems very backwards to me.
I have an example, but I'll put it at the end so that we can get the Breivik discussion out of the way first.
In American TV-land (and possibly in the real USA – I don't know), prosecutors are obsessed with getting the most convictions and the longest sentences possible, so that they can get re-elected for being "tough on crime". Whether they get the wrong guy, or someone who had a good excuse for what they did, doesn't seem to be a concern.
In sensible places, the prosecution tries to get it right. This means that, if a person is nuts, you don't pretend they're sane so you can have them locked away in a prison, where their condition will get worse, instead of a mental hospital, where it will get better.
The maximum 21-year sentence is another good reason for it. I should point out that, if at the end of the 21 years, a prisoner is judged to still be a danger to the community, they can be kept inside. But you can't judge that now; you have to judge it at the end of the 21 years (in 2033).
(By the way, Breivik's defense wants him declared sane and acquitted because his actions were one of necessity. Can you believe that?)
Breivik wants to be declared sane and acquitted on a defence of necessity. I'm sure his lawyer has told him that's a stupid idea, but it's not the lawyer's decision to make. Breivik has his reasons, and from his point of view they seem to be good ones. If he's declared insane, his political point is discredited. (There's more detail on this in the other replies to this thread, so I won't repeat too much.)
Also, he has said he'd rather suffer a death penalty than go to a mental institution. Indeed, he says he didn't expect to get off the island alive anyway, so he didn't really have a plan for afterwards.
Now, the example, which is a Scottish case:
Ross v HM Advocate 1991 JC 210
Robert Ross was in a bar drinking beer from a can. Someone put drugs (temazepam and LSD) in the can without his knowledge. As a result he went on a drug-fuelled rampage and stabbed several people he didn't know with a knife. At his trial for attempted murder, he didn't enter an insanity plea because at the time, the law said that anyone acquitted by reason of insanity had to be detained in a secure mental facility – the court had no choice. Since basically all the facts were agreed, the judge said there was no ground for an acquittal, and the jury convicted him. On appeal, the prosecution said the conviction had to stand, because the only possible ground of acquittal was insanity, which hadn't been pled. Thankfully the Appeal Court saw sense and quashed the conviction. If you need help understanding why, look up the term mens rea. This case is now the foundation for the defence of automatism in Scots Law.
Vigilantibus non dormientibus jura subveniunt.
—Nous disons en allemand : le guerre, le mort, le lune, alors que 'soleil' et 'amour' sont du sexe féminin : la soleil, la amour. La vie est neutre.
—La vie ? Neutre ? C'est très joli, et surtout très logique.
—Nous disons en allemand : le guerre, le mort, le lune, alors que 'soleil' et 'amour' sont du sexe féminin : la soleil, la amour. La vie est neutre.
—La vie ? Neutre ? C'est très joli, et surtout très logique.
Umm...so is the bizarro world located in Norway?
22/06/2012 05:33:25 PM
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If the prosecution thinks the person is insane, then it should urge for insanity
22/06/2012 05:48:19 PM
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Yes; one of the most peaceful places on Earth was the site of the worst shooting rampage in history.
22/06/2012 08:57:34 PM
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Every time I see it mentioned on the news I wonder about the purpose of it
22/06/2012 11:57:17 PM
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I'm proud of the way the court system has handled this case
23/06/2012 09:18:55 AM
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Agreed. Norway's response has been a victory for civilisation against terrorism from start to finish
23/06/2012 10:03:29 AM
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It makes perfect sense when you look into it closely.
23/06/2012 10:00:45 AM
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It all seems sensible to me, and something for other justice systems to aspire towards.
23/06/2012 11:16:02 AM
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