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More likely their comparing two effects and claiming correlation Isaac Send a noteboard - 27/09/2009 02:32:42 PM
Biased Study=biased results


It seems to me the study says spanking is more common amongst poorer families, which doens't seem to surprising, however, there is already a well-known correlation between wealth and intelligence, mostly from wealthier people tending to be intelligent and thus have both their wealth and brains to aid them in making their kids smarter. So you'd expect to see spanking and intelligense inversely related even if spanking has no effect on intelligence.

What bothers me about this study is it seems, as you say, biased. The better choice, and the simpler and easier one I think, would have been to administer IQ tests to parents and child, and ask them if they use spanking regularly and how frequently. If it has any significant impact it should show up very blatantly when mapping the intelligence of children versus the intelligence of their parents when comparing spank vs non-spank.

Since this wasn't done, I wonder why not, since it seems far simpler in terms of resources and far more likely to indicate direct causation or a lack thereof.

It may be true though, but I suspect the main reason is different then implied. Spanking doesn't make kids dumber, spanking is more liekly to happen to children who are already in an environment less likely to promote scholastic tendencies. They could just as easily have done a study saying 'direct sunlight promotes athleticism' because most athletes spend more time out in the sun, it doesn't mean sunlight grows muscles. Or 'direct sunlight makes people stupid' because most budding scholars spend more time indoors reading.
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Negative memories aren't all bad. Parents just need to be consistent, yet loving. *NM* - 26/09/2009 02:06:07 PM 316 Views
Indeed. *NM* - 26/09/2009 02:41:39 PM 306 Views
I dunno.. - 26/09/2009 02:49:50 PM 647 Views
I do believe this study was created to prove the point, not test it. - 26/09/2009 03:25:54 PM 669 Views
What are your grounds for that belief? - 26/09/2009 04:11:37 PM 670 Views
Duke University is one of the best universities in the United States - 26/09/2009 05:11:21 PM 653 Views
Yeah, I have heard of it. - 26/09/2009 05:56:30 PM 622 Views
I agree with her, and here's why - 26/09/2009 06:28:53 PM 630 Views
You are apparently pretty ignorant about psychology if you think it is pseudo-science. - 27/09/2009 01:09:02 AM 612 Views
Bah. It's not falsifiable. - 27/09/2009 01:09:37 PM 719 Views
Karl Popper had a turquoise willy. Falsify THAT with your CERNomatic juiceharp, Galileo. *NM* - 27/09/2009 03:05:44 PM 299 Views
hehe. *NM* - 27/09/2009 04:24:54 PM 306 Views
I would agree... and... - 27/09/2009 01:45:48 AM 587 Views
More likely their comparing two effects and claiming correlation - 27/09/2009 02:32:42 PM 597 Views
Clearly that's why all of our old people are so stupid. - 26/09/2009 04:09:52 PM 638 Views
No, no, that's just nossy bringing down the average. *NM* - 26/09/2009 04:12:10 PM 312 Views
That's not what the study says. It says don't spank VERY young children - 26/09/2009 05:16:33 PM 746 Views
Hahaha *NM* - 26/09/2009 05:58:01 PM 334 Views
Did I miss something or did I just forget? - 27/09/2009 12:54:13 AM 659 Views
Uh... - 27/09/2009 03:32:03 PM 626 Views
She's a beauty! - 28/09/2009 05:16:36 AM 623 Views
too cute for words! *NM* - 28/09/2009 01:33:29 PM 341 Views
That is also what I got. *NM* - 27/09/2009 12:56:08 AM 306 Views
It isn't brain science... wiat a minute, it actually is... - 27/09/2009 01:18:35 AM 627 Views
Agreed. - 28/09/2009 12:06:29 AM 687 Views
For children that young, I can agree. - 26/09/2009 05:56:41 PM 630 Views
With this too, I agree. ^_^ *NM* - 27/09/2009 01:46:32 AM 279 Views
*rings in* Same. - 04/10/2009 11:55:02 PM 802 Views
Really? - 27/09/2009 01:48:35 AM 679 Views
I must be pretty stupid, then. - 28/09/2009 05:49:26 PM 614 Views
It certainly can make them kinky. *NM* - 28/09/2009 07:19:34 PM 322 Views
It's the old "nature v. nurture" argument again... *NM* - 05/10/2009 06:08:26 PM 247 Views
When the kid has both, it's really screwed over then. *NM* - 05/10/2009 07:48:15 PM 259 Views

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