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Fair Enough, my 'memory' is mostly google based on this anyway, from about a year ago and now Isaac Send a noteboard - 11/04/2012 04:00:57 AM
so much so, that ken blackwell requested immunity from having to testify about his role as secretary of state for that election. that makes two presidential elections in a row (2004 and 2008 ) in which ohio had problems with the voting process. one was run by an R and the other by a D. now tell us again how the R's are infallible at running elections? :rolleyes:

I believe Blackwell claimed Sovereign Immunity, as SecState, that's a good deal different then the way you make it sound, like he got immunity in exchange for damning testimony. Maybe he did as you say but I've never heard of it, and Sovereign Immunity is an entirely different animal, dealing with whether or not a government can be sued without its consent.

and my memory is not the best these days. i was also pretty close to the recall effort because i was working with the greens at that time and we had our own opinions of blackwell that were different than what was reported in the media :|


I wasn't around for 2004 or 2006, so most of the Taft-Blackwell-etc stuff I know about from digging from hearing this or that acquaintance talking about in the run up to 2010. I haven't really kept up on what the greens have been up to, it's not a strong party in Ohio of late, but Blackwell's not exactly a GOP darling these days.
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No voter fraud Mr. Holder? I beg to differ..... Anonymous2000 - 09/04/2012 07:13:46 PM 660 Views
The irony of a Republican-leaning person pointing this out... *NM* Larry - 09/04/2012 08:37:33 PM 152 Views
Why is it ironic? Isaac - 09/04/2012 09:54:10 PM 410 Views
The irony is merely that of the pot and the kettle Larry - 10/04/2012 01:05:39 AM 304 Views
If you are referring to FL in 2000.....those machines were bought by Dems..... Anonymous2000 - 10/04/2012 01:17:26 AM 294 Views
Was thinking more about Ohio to be honest Larry - 10/04/2012 01:22:55 AM 304 Views
Intentional Voting Suppression is what they are trying to do in Florida right now(due to a 2011 law) Roland00 - 10/04/2012 04:22:25 AM 451 Views
Honestly, I'm fine with convicted felons permanently losing their right to vote..... Anonymous2000 - 10/04/2012 04:34:31 AM 286 Views
I am also fine with stupid people not being allowed to vote Roland00 - 10/04/2012 04:36:20 AM 249 Views
Agreed - stupid people should not be allowed to vote, maybe an IQ test? Anonymous2000 - 10/04/2012 05:17:43 AM 252 Views
Also the poor should not be allowed to vote Roland00 - 10/04/2012 10:13:27 PM 252 Views
Hey, to jump in here. callandor1000 - 18/04/2012 04:12:15 AM 249 Views
I don't know about permanently... LadyLorraine - 10/04/2012 02:10:10 PM 271 Views
Who is talking about letting felons vote in prison? Joel - 10/04/2012 02:24:29 PM 350 Views
The League of Women Voters, for one Isaac - 10/04/2012 08:50:39 PM 273 Views
Well, that is simply ridiculous then, and merits no consideration. Joel - 10/04/2012 11:53:04 PM 357 Views
To play Devil's Advocate, there's some legitimacy to the concept Isaac - 11/04/2012 04:24:37 AM 321 Views
Sounds like people deliberately missing the point more than anything. Joel - 11/04/2012 07:45:40 AM 343 Views
Ohio? When? *NM* Anonymous2000 - 10/04/2012 04:30:29 AM 102 Views
2008. Larry - 10/04/2012 04:37:15 AM 249 Views
Once again, Dems were running those polls and counties. Anonymous2000 - 10/04/2012 05:19:14 AM 224 Views
they were not in 2004 and still had vote supression and irregularities moondog - 10/04/2012 04:44:36 PM 260 Views
I think you've got your facts wrong Isaac - 10/04/2012 09:00:55 PM 268 Views
well, to be fair, it *has* been 8 years moondog - 11/04/2012 03:49:17 AM 349 Views
Fair Enough, my 'memory' is mostly google based on this anyway, from about a year ago and now Isaac - 11/04/2012 04:00:57 AM 325 Views
Stating something doesn't make it true Isaac - 10/04/2012 04:10:33 AM 318 Views
I'm impressed that you wrote so much in reply Larry - 10/04/2012 04:36:02 AM 273 Views
Then demonstrate that by having the courtesy to rebut it or withdraw your remarks Isaac - 10/04/2012 06:30:52 AM 330 Views
How long voting takes is a function of machines, not voters. Joel - 10/04/2012 02:08:39 PM 344 Views
It's a function of various factors, that can certainly be one Isaac - 10/04/2012 08:12:08 PM 293 Views
Ohio in 2004 was hinky enough to prompt the only Congressional challenge since 1876s Corrupt Bargain Joel - 10/04/2012 11:36:52 PM 416 Views
I know it's a bit pot/kettle but dude... stay on topic Isaac - 11/04/2012 01:34:26 AM 320 Views
I LOST PORKINS! Joel - 11/04/2012 07:26:41 AM 335 Views
The fact that it's possible doesn't mean it's widespread, nor that every countermeasure is justified *NM* Tim - 10/04/2012 11:57:16 AM 119 Views
As long as people need not purchase their voting requirements, voter IDs are fine by me. Joel - 10/04/2012 12:53:35 PM 355 Views
It's frightening when I agree with you. Tom - 10/04/2012 02:52:23 PM 272 Views
Law of averages, maybe. Joel - 10/04/2012 04:44:55 PM 388 Views
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