People screamed it stunk so much that everyone thinks so, very little of this was ever substantiated and I simply don't accept something as ironclad fact unless there's real evidence, someone could claim Yeti mobbed them and they were speeding fleeing the things, and while a thousand people claiming it would definitely get me to look into it, I'd need some cold hard proof before I said "This happened and just liek you say so", you're just relaying undocumented events right now, and a newspaper reporter reporting it afterwards is not a reliable source either, with years to have compiled hard evidence (phone records of people receiving the 'vote wednesday', stack of misdirecting fliers from multiple sources and/or police, presiding judges of polls signing affidavits that this or that occurred) without that, it is just grapevine and rumormill... and that seems to me all it was, though I am genuinely open to proof otherwise.



Now, those fliers just like the phone calls, I've never seen any substantiation that took place, just that people claimed it did. Unless you can point me to actual documentation of those I have to consider it untrue... and one guy posting one or two wouldn't count, though I haven't even see that much.



That's an extreme exaggeration and Blackwell was not at fault, anymore then Kucinch, who I don't blame for being leery of Diebold but they're an Ohio company and when we decided not to use their stuff it through a wrench in the gears. Also I don't recall, I was very not in the United States in 2004 or 2006, I had to research this after the fact when the dust had settled, ditto with Taft, so I view myself having a slightly more objective view on it. I could read up on an accusation and flash forward at the speed of google to see if anything came of it, most didn't. The only irregularity of note, in my book, was the incident with the recount, where two workers, one of each party, got lazy, now I'd knock them for that but they were being asked to hand recount a decided election where the other candidate had already conceded and no other race was going to be effected so... yeah, wrong but even the prosecutor acknowledged there was no politically motivated chicanery and no effect on the votes besides a black eye. Also, in Ohio there is no third of poll judges as independents, 2 GOP, 2 Dem, the language allows for additional of other parties but essentially that's it.



I concur with a caveat, I don't think it would be unreasonable to charge for replacement ID's that were required more frequently then every four or five years, for instance, but not a big deal to me... now the actual text of a given law implementing that I'd watch like a hawk but certainly in principle I don't want cost of ID to prevent people from voting... honestly I don't think it really does anyway though, and I do think we want to be a touch cautious setting a precedent that ID would be a poll tax, postage on an absentee, gas spent getting there or bus fare, these are not the public's concern.