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Then demonstrate that by having the courtesy to rebut it or withdraw your remarks Isaac Send a noteboard - 10/04/2012 06:30:52 AM
Must have missed that part where I acknowledged it's an issue on multiple fronts and that calling out one without acknowledging the other is nigh pointless. I stand by that and that alone.


Probably got lost when you said you prefer thousands of zombie voters over technical problems, that sounds strangely like being okay with felonious attempts by individuals to hijack our democratic process. Don't knock my state either if you're not willing to hear hard, factual, verifiable evidence disproving or mitigating your claims.

Also, if you want to 'stand by that and that alone', don't say anything else, or admit the other comments were mistakes. 'I hate [bigotted remark] and cauliflower which causes cancer, as well as violations of free speech, but I really hate violations of free speech and I stand by that and that alone!'. Come on Larry, A/T2K, O'keefe, and myself are calling Holder out on a risible remark about voter fraud being a non-issue. It's true. Voter suppression is also a legit concern as are technical problems inherent in any given system that need combating. But to hit us with pot/kettle is the same as accusing someone of hypocrisy for pointing out that drunk driving is a problem after someone said it wasn't because we didn't point out 'Oh, and failure to do vehicle maintenance along with road rage and hit and runs are also serious issues', that doesn't make us hypocrites. Nor does pointing out that an individual case is erroneous or exaggerated.
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No voter fraud Mr. Holder? I beg to differ..... - 09/04/2012 07:13:46 PM 659 Views
The irony of a Republican-leaning person pointing this out... *NM* - 09/04/2012 08:37:33 PM 152 Views
Why is it ironic? - 09/04/2012 09:54:10 PM 410 Views
The irony is merely that of the pot and the kettle - 10/04/2012 01:05:39 AM 304 Views
If you are referring to FL in 2000.....those machines were bought by Dems..... - 10/04/2012 01:17:26 AM 294 Views
Was thinking more about Ohio to be honest - 10/04/2012 01:22:55 AM 304 Views
Intentional Voting Suppression is what they are trying to do in Florida right now(due to a 2011 law) - 10/04/2012 04:22:25 AM 451 Views
Honestly, I'm fine with convicted felons permanently losing their right to vote..... - 10/04/2012 04:34:31 AM 285 Views
I am also fine with stupid people not being allowed to vote - 10/04/2012 04:36:20 AM 249 Views
Agreed - stupid people should not be allowed to vote, maybe an IQ test? - 10/04/2012 05:17:43 AM 252 Views
Also the poor should not be allowed to vote - 10/04/2012 10:13:27 PM 252 Views
Hey, to jump in here. - 18/04/2012 04:12:15 AM 249 Views
I don't know about permanently... - 10/04/2012 02:10:10 PM 271 Views
Who is talking about letting felons vote in prison? - 10/04/2012 02:24:29 PM 350 Views
The League of Women Voters, for one - 10/04/2012 08:50:39 PM 272 Views
Ohio? When? *NM* - 10/04/2012 04:30:29 AM 102 Views
2008. - 10/04/2012 04:37:15 AM 249 Views
Once again, Dems were running those polls and counties. - 10/04/2012 05:19:14 AM 224 Views
they were not in 2004 and still had vote supression and irregularities - 10/04/2012 04:44:36 PM 259 Views
I think you've got your facts wrong - 10/04/2012 09:00:55 PM 268 Views
Stating something doesn't make it true - 10/04/2012 04:10:33 AM 318 Views
I'm impressed that you wrote so much in reply - 10/04/2012 04:36:02 AM 273 Views
Then demonstrate that by having the courtesy to rebut it or withdraw your remarks - 10/04/2012 06:30:52 AM 330 Views
How long voting takes is a function of machines, not voters. - 10/04/2012 02:08:39 PM 344 Views
It's a function of various factors, that can certainly be one - 10/04/2012 08:12:08 PM 293 Views
Ohio in 2004 was hinky enough to prompt the only Congressional challenge since 1876s Corrupt Bargain - 10/04/2012 11:36:52 PM 415 Views
I know it's a bit pot/kettle but dude... stay on topic - 11/04/2012 01:34:26 AM 319 Views
I LOST PORKINS! - 11/04/2012 07:26:41 AM 335 Views
As long as people need not purchase their voting requirements, voter IDs are fine by me. - 10/04/2012 12:53:35 PM 355 Views
It's frightening when I agree with you. - 10/04/2012 02:52:23 PM 272 Views
Law of averages, maybe. - 10/04/2012 04:44:55 PM 388 Views

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