First off, you replying to a liberal poster so if your goal is to encourage the conservatives on the site to be less troll like you're aiming in the wrong direction... wasted fire anyway, there are proportionally very few conservative threads on the board. You are mostly informing a group of primarily socially moderate conservatives that people don't like angry social conservatives. This is also where liberal media bias factors in, it's hard not to be perceived as radical when you can take as a given every bad remark will get 5 times as much negative coverage as the other side's slips.
Your core point really is quite correct. Whatever I or others might think of moderates, their views decide pretty much every election, and perception of fanaticism, regardless of its validity, turns voters in the middle off big time.
However, and this is a big point, during the primary of a race to challenge an incumbent the non-incumbent side always seems far right/left compared to the incumbent, because they must solidify their base while the other guy must do only enough to appease his while playing to the middle. The latter is much easier than the former. This would be a big concern, and is a legitimate one, but the reality is that the primary is usually over between February and April, as will be the case this time too in all likelihood, and people will have over half a year to forget such things while the challenger hits the incumbent. And considering the nominee will almost certainly be Romney, who even the Dems have been calling moderate and who is burnt into most of the population's head as moderate, I really doubt come election day very many people will be thinking 'Hmm... can I risk voting for Romney? He's such a radical.' and unless he picks someone with low charisma or noted for their social crusading, which is unlikely, very few people will fear the ticket. Especially after months of being bombarded in the swing states with positive ads about him. They can hit him negatively about his business or economic practices, but those aren't 'scary' to most people, and they can try to hang the more scary conservatives around his neck, but if this combative primary has served no other good purpose for the party it has definitely locked into a large portion of the populace's minds the idea that Romney doesn't get along with those sorts and is unlikely to be very influenced by them. So while doubtless some people will vote for Obama on the grounds you suggest, I don't think it will be all that huge a factor.
Your core point really is quite correct. Whatever I or others might think of moderates, their views decide pretty much every election, and perception of fanaticism, regardless of its validity, turns voters in the middle off big time.
However, and this is a big point, during the primary of a race to challenge an incumbent the non-incumbent side always seems far right/left compared to the incumbent, because they must solidify their base while the other guy must do only enough to appease his while playing to the middle. The latter is much easier than the former. This would be a big concern, and is a legitimate one, but the reality is that the primary is usually over between February and April, as will be the case this time too in all likelihood, and people will have over half a year to forget such things while the challenger hits the incumbent. And considering the nominee will almost certainly be Romney, who even the Dems have been calling moderate and who is burnt into most of the population's head as moderate, I really doubt come election day very many people will be thinking 'Hmm... can I risk voting for Romney? He's such a radical.' and unless he picks someone with low charisma or noted for their social crusading, which is unlikely, very few people will fear the ticket. Especially after months of being bombarded in the swing states with positive ads about him. They can hit him negatively about his business or economic practices, but those aren't 'scary' to most people, and they can try to hang the more scary conservatives around his neck, but if this combative primary has served no other good purpose for the party it has definitely locked into a large portion of the populace's minds the idea that Romney doesn't get along with those sorts and is unlikely to be very influenced by them. So while doubtless some people will vote for Obama on the grounds you suggest, I don't think it will be all that huge a factor.
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can *any* republican pose a challenge to obama in november?
14/03/2012 04:06:59 AM
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Yes, absolutely.....
14/03/2012 04:12:30 AM
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"anybody but obama" is not a winning strategy
14/03/2012 02:28:23 PM
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It can definitely work.....don't compare 2012 to 2004.
14/03/2012 02:44:39 PM
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this is why it will be 2004 all over again if romney is nominated
16/03/2012 02:22:26 PM
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It sure as Hell is, as long as the candidate is moderate
14/03/2012 03:04:10 PM
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Did you vote for Obama in 2008?
14/03/2012 03:47:55 PM
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Yes I did. If Romney is the candidate, I will vote Romney this year. *NM*
14/03/2012 08:39:41 PM
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Strongly qualifying your statement really weakens the "anyone". *NM*
14/03/2012 10:14:45 PM
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The statement "anyone but Obama" can be a rallying cry, but only for the right candidates.
16/03/2012 01:47:48 AM
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somehow i don't see romney having much credibility versus obama
16/03/2012 02:16:32 PM
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Spoken like a true Obama partisan
16/03/2012 04:18:21 PM
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actually, i did not vote for obama in 2008 and i won't this time either
17/03/2012 01:02:09 PM
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Sure, if Israel hits Iran and Obama looks weak.
14/03/2012 04:56:23 AM
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i think iran/israel is probably the biggest issue at the moment
14/03/2012 02:25:29 PM
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I would put serious money on an Israeli attack before the election.
14/03/2012 02:56:55 PM
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I know that I would consider voting for Romney
14/03/2012 01:05:47 PM
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If you will pardon an impertinent question: Why?
14/03/2012 03:26:01 PM
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Because Obama is a complete and utter failure.....
14/03/2012 03:44:14 PM
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Again, I get Republicans voting Anybody but Obama, but not how anyone can be comfortable w/ Romney.
14/03/2012 04:06:14 PM
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Pre-convention only the incumbents favorability ratings matter much
14/03/2012 01:19:04 PM
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obama is not popular, but at least he has the ability to organize a national campaign
14/03/2012 02:18:04 PM
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No, the democratic party does, so does the GOP
14/03/2012 03:16:31 PM
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That's true- despite how divisive the primaries seem, the GOP will unite behind the winner
14/03/2012 03:44:16 PM
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Re: That's true- despite how divisive the primaries seem, the GOP will unite behind the winner
14/03/2012 03:59:25 PM
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Actually, my experience has been a lot of libs mean it when they say they will not for anyone.
14/03/2012 04:19:46 PM
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I don't want to grossly over-generalize but there are distinct trends to party demographics
14/03/2012 06:04:09 PM
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I was thinking no, and here's my rationale:
14/03/2012 03:41:21 PM
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Much as it pains me to agree with trzaska, he is absolutely right in this case.
14/03/2012 04:21:43 PM
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Interesting. So you guys are basically saying I'm right, but it might not matter
14/03/2012 04:53:48 PM
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Yeah, pretty much, and I would even say that is the trend in all Dem vs. Rep elections.
14/03/2012 04:59:30 PM
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Yes and no
14/03/2012 06:23:47 PM
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Conservative cookies nomz. But I think you missed my main point...
14/03/2012 07:02:10 PM
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Conservative cookies nomz. But I think you missed my main point...
14/03/2012 07:09:24 PM
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And the cookies are not a lie... at last night's meeting, we had Thin Mints
15/03/2012 09:51:30 PM
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Yeah, I just meant perception
16/03/2012 02:39:30 AM
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One day Republicans and internet trolls alike will learn not to say weird shit to people like me.
15/03/2012 12:30:17 AM
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I like this post.
15/03/2012 08:40:07 PM
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I don't mean to disrespect your seal, but it looks more like a cat. *NM*
15/03/2012 08:52:26 PM
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You've obviously never heard of a kitten seal, Mr. I-Write-An-Animal-Blog. *NM*
15/03/2012 09:38:47 PM
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Maybe it's a leopard seal. That someone put a cat-ear band on. *NM*
15/03/2012 10:07:46 PM
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Does it matter if they do? At this point, does it matter who is president? Probably not.
16/03/2012 02:11:45 AM
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