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Couple notes Isaac Send a noteboard - 15/03/2012 09:29:23 PM
First off, you replying to a liberal poster so if your goal is to encourage the conservatives on the site to be less troll like you're aiming in the wrong direction... wasted fire anyway, there are proportionally very few conservative threads on the board. You are mostly informing a group of primarily socially moderate conservatives that people don't like angry social conservatives. This is also where liberal media bias factors in, it's hard not to be perceived as radical when you can take as a given every bad remark will get 5 times as much negative coverage as the other side's slips.

Your core point really is quite correct. Whatever I or others might think of moderates, their views decide pretty much every election, and perception of fanaticism, regardless of its validity, turns voters in the middle off big time.

However, and this is a big point, during the primary of a race to challenge an incumbent the non-incumbent side always seems far right/left compared to the incumbent, because they must solidify their base while the other guy must do only enough to appease his while playing to the middle. The latter is much easier than the former. This would be a big concern, and is a legitimate one, but the reality is that the primary is usually over between February and April, as will be the case this time too in all likelihood, and people will have over half a year to forget such things while the challenger hits the incumbent. And considering the nominee will almost certainly be Romney, who even the Dems have been calling moderate and who is burnt into most of the population's head as moderate, I really doubt come election day very many people will be thinking 'Hmm... can I risk voting for Romney? He's such a radical.' and unless he picks someone with low charisma or noted for their social crusading, which is unlikely, very few people will fear the ticket. Especially after months of being bombarded in the swing states with positive ads about him. They can hit him negatively about his business or economic practices, but those aren't 'scary' to most people, and they can try to hang the more scary conservatives around his neck, but if this combative primary has served no other good purpose for the party it has definitely locked into a large portion of the populace's minds the idea that Romney doesn't get along with those sorts and is unlikely to be very influenced by them. So while doubtless some people will vote for Obama on the grounds you suggest, I don't think it will be all that huge a factor.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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can *any* republican pose a challenge to obama in november? - 14/03/2012 04:06:59 AM 1177 Views
Yes, absolutely..... - 14/03/2012 04:12:30 AM 630 Views
"anybody but obama" is not a winning strategy - 14/03/2012 02:28:23 PM 608 Views
It can definitely work.....don't compare 2012 to 2004. - 14/03/2012 02:44:39 PM 477 Views
this is why it will be 2004 all over again if romney is nominated - 16/03/2012 02:22:26 PM 514 Views
It sure as Hell is, as long as the candidate is moderate - 14/03/2012 03:04:10 PM 722 Views
Did you vote for Obama in 2008? - 14/03/2012 03:47:55 PM 478 Views
Yes I did. If Romney is the candidate, I will vote Romney this year. *NM* - 14/03/2012 08:39:41 PM 328 Views
Second me on that. *NM* - 15/03/2012 09:25:39 PM 247 Views
Strongly qualifying your statement really weakens the "anyone". *NM* - 14/03/2012 10:14:45 PM 343 Views
The statement "anyone but Obama" can be a rallying cry, but only for the right candidates. - 16/03/2012 01:47:48 AM 631 Views
somehow i don't see romney having much credibility versus obama - 16/03/2012 02:16:32 PM 514 Views
Spoken like a true Obama partisan - 16/03/2012 04:18:21 PM 528 Views
It's actually not about credibility. - 16/03/2012 09:57:41 PM 587 Views
Re: It's actually not about credibility. - 17/03/2012 01:10:52 PM 904 Views
I love that "Gas Costs More!" is the current rallying cry. - 14/03/2012 10:13:04 PM 510 Views
Sure, if Israel hits Iran and Obama looks weak. - 14/03/2012 04:56:23 AM 630 Views
i think iran/israel is probably the biggest issue at the moment - 14/03/2012 02:25:29 PM 635 Views
I would put serious money on an Israeli attack before the election. - 14/03/2012 02:56:55 PM 630 Views
"if netanyahu is smart" is a hell of a qualifier - 16/03/2012 02:28:55 PM 561 Views
FL and/or OH and VA. - 14/03/2012 04:55:04 PM 718 Views
Yes, Romney. - 14/03/2012 10:59:26 AM 624 Views
I know that I would consider voting for Romney - 14/03/2012 01:05:47 PM 605 Views
If you will pardon an impertinent question: Why? - 14/03/2012 03:26:01 PM 585 Views
The answer to the question is yes. *NM* - 14/03/2012 02:24:51 PM 411 Views
I was thinking no, and here's my rationale: - 14/03/2012 03:41:21 PM 545 Views
Romney doesn't have to "steal" people away..... - 14/03/2012 03:48:00 PM 545 Views
Isn't that a pretty tenuous strategy? - 14/03/2012 04:49:42 PM 578 Views
Much as it pains me to agree with trzaska, he is absolutely right in this case. - 14/03/2012 04:21:43 PM 754 Views
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I need a shower.... - 14/03/2012 05:05:51 PM 674 Views
Interesting. So you guys are basically saying I'm right, but it might not matter - 14/03/2012 04:53:48 PM 616 Views
Yes and no - 14/03/2012 06:23:47 PM 734 Views
Conservative cookies nomz. But I think you missed my main point... - 14/03/2012 07:02:10 PM 586 Views
Conservative cookies nomz. But I think you missed my main point... - 14/03/2012 07:09:24 PM 502 Views
And the cookies are not a lie... at last night's meeting, we had Thin Mints - 15/03/2012 09:51:30 PM 617 Views
Yeah, I just meant perception - 16/03/2012 02:39:30 AM 616 Views
Re: Yeah, I just meant perception - 16/03/2012 03:32:07 AM 536 Views
Maybe I am - 16/03/2012 11:57:04 PM 564 Views
I'm not sure "hole" is really the word for it... - 15/03/2012 10:46:58 PM 512 Views
One day Republicans and internet trolls alike will learn not to say weird shit to people like me. - 15/03/2012 12:30:17 AM 690 Views
This is quite a good post and I can offer further evidence - 15/03/2012 12:37:13 AM 543 Views
I like this post. - 15/03/2012 08:40:07 PM 563 Views
I don't mean to disrespect your seal, but it looks more like a cat. *NM* - 15/03/2012 08:52:26 PM 216 Views
This made me laugh way more than it should have *NM* - 15/03/2012 09:07:08 PM 235 Views
me too *NM* - 15/03/2012 11:58:52 PM 219 Views
Couple notes - 15/03/2012 09:29:23 PM 497 Views
Yeah... - 15/03/2012 09:49:14 PM 526 Views
I like that logo better - 15/03/2012 09:57:39 PM 476 Views
Depends on the state of the economy - 15/03/2012 08:52:32 PM 521 Views

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