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Actually, my experience has been a lot of libs mean it when they say they will not for anyone. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/03/2012 04:19:46 PM
They might be conflicted, or wish that their guy was the one in the running, but I can't imagine anyone would switch sides because of it. Does anyone know any passionate Hillary supporters who ended up voting for McCain?

Actually yes, and there were a fair number of people who favored Hillary and felt Obama disrespected her picking Biden and were open to embracing Palin. In general though, no, very few people who get excited about primaries switch sides if they don't like the winner and most will show up to vote for the other races and in spite of what they say beforehand about 'just not gonna vote for anyone' will go ahead and fill in the circle for the lesser of two evils even if they have to rationalize 'if I don't, some corrupt dirtbag from those damn GOP/Dem will probably fill it in for me, those bastards!'

It is one of reason endorsements can actually matter. Republicans tend to be a lot better about being team players, as well as more inclined to vote for SOMEONE out of civic duty. I know many liberals who refuse to vote because they consider no candidate deserving, and have a good friend who long insisted voting makes one culpable for all government failures and wrongdoing.

My own impression is that, historically, Republicans tend to suffer far less than Democrats from divisive primaries, with the notable exception of when TR ran for a third term as an independent, spawning the Progressive Party in the process. You guys do not have to deal with herding cats or holding a big tent together; the only real concern is that Libertarians might say, "a pox on both their houses," but that is always a concern. With Dems it seems the whole party is like that, refusing to vote for anyone who does not cater to their own personal interest, or "stole" the nomination from their personal hero.

That is also the biggest threat to Obamas re-election: Not that people who voted for him last time will vote for Romney, but that they will stay home while the far more energized GOP anti-Obama base rushes to the polls to defeat him. As a general rule, I think any Democrat needs a lead of a few extra points simply because their turnout less reliable than the GOPs.
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can *any* republican pose a challenge to obama in november? - 14/03/2012 04:06:59 AM 1177 Views
Yes, absolutely..... - 14/03/2012 04:12:30 AM 630 Views
"anybody but obama" is not a winning strategy - 14/03/2012 02:28:23 PM 608 Views
It can definitely work.....don't compare 2012 to 2004. - 14/03/2012 02:44:39 PM 477 Views
this is why it will be 2004 all over again if romney is nominated - 16/03/2012 02:22:26 PM 514 Views
It sure as Hell is, as long as the candidate is moderate - 14/03/2012 03:04:10 PM 722 Views
Did you vote for Obama in 2008? - 14/03/2012 03:47:55 PM 479 Views
Yes I did. If Romney is the candidate, I will vote Romney this year. *NM* - 14/03/2012 08:39:41 PM 328 Views
Second me on that. *NM* - 15/03/2012 09:25:39 PM 247 Views
Strongly qualifying your statement really weakens the "anyone". *NM* - 14/03/2012 10:14:45 PM 344 Views
The statement "anyone but Obama" can be a rallying cry, but only for the right candidates. - 16/03/2012 01:47:48 AM 631 Views
somehow i don't see romney having much credibility versus obama - 16/03/2012 02:16:32 PM 515 Views
Spoken like a true Obama partisan - 16/03/2012 04:18:21 PM 529 Views
It's actually not about credibility. - 16/03/2012 09:57:41 PM 588 Views
Re: It's actually not about credibility. - 17/03/2012 01:10:52 PM 904 Views
I love that "Gas Costs More!" is the current rallying cry. - 14/03/2012 10:13:04 PM 510 Views
Sure, if Israel hits Iran and Obama looks weak. - 14/03/2012 04:56:23 AM 630 Views
i think iran/israel is probably the biggest issue at the moment - 14/03/2012 02:25:29 PM 635 Views
I would put serious money on an Israeli attack before the election. - 14/03/2012 02:56:55 PM 631 Views
"if netanyahu is smart" is a hell of a qualifier - 16/03/2012 02:28:55 PM 562 Views
FL and/or OH and VA. - 14/03/2012 04:55:04 PM 718 Views
Yes, Romney. - 14/03/2012 10:59:26 AM 624 Views
I know that I would consider voting for Romney - 14/03/2012 01:05:47 PM 605 Views
If you will pardon an impertinent question: Why? - 14/03/2012 03:26:01 PM 585 Views
Pre-convention only the incumbents favorability ratings matter much - 14/03/2012 01:19:04 PM 619 Views
obama is not popular, but at least he has the ability to organize a national campaign - 14/03/2012 02:18:04 PM 562 Views
No, the democratic party does, so does the GOP - 14/03/2012 03:16:31 PM 633 Views
That's true- despite how divisive the primaries seem, the GOP will unite behind the winner - 14/03/2012 03:44:16 PM 654 Views
Re: That's true- despite how divisive the primaries seem, the GOP will unite behind the winner - 14/03/2012 03:59:25 PM 585 Views
Actually, my experience has been a lot of libs mean it when they say they will not for anyone. - 14/03/2012 04:19:46 PM 449 Views
I don't want to grossly over-generalize but there are distinct trends to party demographics - 14/03/2012 06:04:09 PM 662 Views
Hah - 14/03/2012 07:08:41 PM 615 Views
By the way, did we ever find out wtf William Smith is? - 14/03/2012 04:33:26 PM 645 Views
Just some dude, it matters about as much as Alvin Greene - 14/03/2012 05:59:19 PM 586 Views
The answer to the question is yes. *NM* - 14/03/2012 02:24:51 PM 412 Views
I was thinking no, and here's my rationale: - 14/03/2012 03:41:21 PM 545 Views
Romney doesn't have to "steal" people away..... - 14/03/2012 03:48:00 PM 545 Views
Isn't that a pretty tenuous strategy? - 14/03/2012 04:49:42 PM 579 Views
Much as it pains me to agree with trzaska, he is absolutely right in this case. - 14/03/2012 04:21:43 PM 755 Views
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I need a shower.... - 14/03/2012 05:05:51 PM 674 Views
Interesting. So you guys are basically saying I'm right, but it might not matter - 14/03/2012 04:53:48 PM 616 Views
Yes and no - 14/03/2012 06:23:47 PM 735 Views
Conservative cookies nomz. But I think you missed my main point... - 14/03/2012 07:02:10 PM 586 Views
Conservative cookies nomz. But I think you missed my main point... - 14/03/2012 07:09:24 PM 502 Views
And the cookies are not a lie... at last night's meeting, we had Thin Mints - 15/03/2012 09:51:30 PM 617 Views
Yeah, I just meant perception - 16/03/2012 02:39:30 AM 617 Views
Re: Yeah, I just meant perception - 16/03/2012 03:32:07 AM 537 Views
Maybe I am - 16/03/2012 11:57:04 PM 564 Views
I'm not sure "hole" is really the word for it... - 15/03/2012 10:46:58 PM 513 Views
One day Republicans and internet trolls alike will learn not to say weird shit to people like me. - 15/03/2012 12:30:17 AM 690 Views
This is quite a good post and I can offer further evidence - 15/03/2012 12:37:13 AM 544 Views
I like this post. - 15/03/2012 08:40:07 PM 563 Views
I don't mean to disrespect your seal, but it looks more like a cat. *NM* - 15/03/2012 08:52:26 PM 216 Views
This made me laugh way more than it should have *NM* - 15/03/2012 09:07:08 PM 236 Views
me too *NM* - 15/03/2012 11:58:52 PM 219 Views
Couple notes - 15/03/2012 09:29:23 PM 497 Views
Yeah... - 15/03/2012 09:49:14 PM 526 Views
I like that logo better - 15/03/2012 09:57:39 PM 477 Views
Depends on the state of the economy - 15/03/2012 08:52:32 PM 522 Views

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