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Actually, my experience has been a lot of libs mean it when they say they will not for anyone. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/03/2012 04:19:46 PM
They might be conflicted, or wish that their guy was the one in the running, but I can't imagine anyone would switch sides because of it. Does anyone know any passionate Hillary supporters who ended up voting for McCain?

Actually yes, and there were a fair number of people who favored Hillary and felt Obama disrespected her picking Biden and were open to embracing Palin. In general though, no, very few people who get excited about primaries switch sides if they don't like the winner and most will show up to vote for the other races and in spite of what they say beforehand about 'just not gonna vote for anyone' will go ahead and fill in the circle for the lesser of two evils even if they have to rationalize 'if I don't, some corrupt dirtbag from those damn GOP/Dem will probably fill it in for me, those bastards!'

It is one of reason endorsements can actually matter. Republicans tend to be a lot better about being team players, as well as more inclined to vote for SOMEONE out of civic duty. I know many liberals who refuse to vote because they consider no candidate deserving, and have a good friend who long insisted voting makes one culpable for all government failures and wrongdoing.

My own impression is that, historically, Republicans tend to suffer far less than Democrats from divisive primaries, with the notable exception of when TR ran for a third term as an independent, spawning the Progressive Party in the process. You guys do not have to deal with herding cats or holding a big tent together; the only real concern is that Libertarians might say, "a pox on both their houses," but that is always a concern. With Dems it seems the whole party is like that, refusing to vote for anyone who does not cater to their own personal interest, or "stole" the nomination from their personal hero.

That is also the biggest threat to Obamas re-election: Not that people who voted for him last time will vote for Romney, but that they will stay home while the far more energized GOP anti-Obama base rushes to the polls to defeat him. As a general rule, I think any Democrat needs a lead of a few extra points simply because their turnout less reliable than the GOPs.
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can *any* republican pose a challenge to obama in november? - 14/03/2012 04:06:59 AM 1181 Views
Yes, absolutely..... - 14/03/2012 04:12:30 AM 634 Views
"anybody but obama" is not a winning strategy - 14/03/2012 02:28:23 PM 614 Views
It can definitely work.....don't compare 2012 to 2004. - 14/03/2012 02:44:39 PM 482 Views
this is why it will be 2004 all over again if romney is nominated - 16/03/2012 02:22:26 PM 520 Views
It sure as Hell is, as long as the candidate is moderate - 14/03/2012 03:04:10 PM 727 Views
Did you vote for Obama in 2008? - 14/03/2012 03:47:55 PM 482 Views
Yes I did. If Romney is the candidate, I will vote Romney this year. *NM* - 14/03/2012 08:39:41 PM 329 Views
Second me on that. *NM* - 15/03/2012 09:25:39 PM 248 Views
Strongly qualifying your statement really weakens the "anyone". *NM* - 14/03/2012 10:14:45 PM 345 Views
The statement "anyone but Obama" can be a rallying cry, but only for the right candidates. - 16/03/2012 01:47:48 AM 634 Views
somehow i don't see romney having much credibility versus obama - 16/03/2012 02:16:32 PM 519 Views
Spoken like a true Obama partisan - 16/03/2012 04:18:21 PM 536 Views
It's actually not about credibility. - 16/03/2012 09:57:41 PM 591 Views
Re: It's actually not about credibility. - 17/03/2012 01:10:52 PM 909 Views
I love that "Gas Costs More!" is the current rallying cry. - 14/03/2012 10:13:04 PM 514 Views
Sure, if Israel hits Iran and Obama looks weak. - 14/03/2012 04:56:23 AM 639 Views
i think iran/israel is probably the biggest issue at the moment - 14/03/2012 02:25:29 PM 641 Views
I would put serious money on an Israeli attack before the election. - 14/03/2012 02:56:55 PM 635 Views
"if netanyahu is smart" is a hell of a qualifier - 16/03/2012 02:28:55 PM 568 Views
FL and/or OH and VA. - 14/03/2012 04:55:04 PM 723 Views
Yes, Romney. - 14/03/2012 10:59:26 AM 629 Views
I know that I would consider voting for Romney - 14/03/2012 01:05:47 PM 610 Views
If you will pardon an impertinent question: Why? - 14/03/2012 03:26:01 PM 589 Views
Pre-convention only the incumbents favorability ratings matter much - 14/03/2012 01:19:04 PM 624 Views
obama is not popular, but at least he has the ability to organize a national campaign - 14/03/2012 02:18:04 PM 567 Views
No, the democratic party does, so does the GOP - 14/03/2012 03:16:31 PM 636 Views
That's true- despite how divisive the primaries seem, the GOP will unite behind the winner - 14/03/2012 03:44:16 PM 658 Views
Re: That's true- despite how divisive the primaries seem, the GOP will unite behind the winner - 14/03/2012 03:59:25 PM 588 Views
Actually, my experience has been a lot of libs mean it when they say they will not for anyone. - 14/03/2012 04:19:46 PM 452 Views
I don't want to grossly over-generalize but there are distinct trends to party demographics - 14/03/2012 06:04:09 PM 668 Views
Hah - 14/03/2012 07:08:41 PM 618 Views
By the way, did we ever find out wtf William Smith is? - 14/03/2012 04:33:26 PM 650 Views
Just some dude, it matters about as much as Alvin Greene - 14/03/2012 05:59:19 PM 589 Views
The answer to the question is yes. *NM* - 14/03/2012 02:24:51 PM 415 Views
I was thinking no, and here's my rationale: - 14/03/2012 03:41:21 PM 549 Views
Romney doesn't have to "steal" people away..... - 14/03/2012 03:48:00 PM 550 Views
Isn't that a pretty tenuous strategy? - 14/03/2012 04:49:42 PM 583 Views
Much as it pains me to agree with trzaska, he is absolutely right in this case. - 14/03/2012 04:21:43 PM 758 Views
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I need a shower.... - 14/03/2012 05:05:51 PM 679 Views
Interesting. So you guys are basically saying I'm right, but it might not matter - 14/03/2012 04:53:48 PM 619 Views
Yes and no - 14/03/2012 06:23:47 PM 743 Views
Conservative cookies nomz. But I think you missed my main point... - 14/03/2012 07:02:10 PM 592 Views
Conservative cookies nomz. But I think you missed my main point... - 14/03/2012 07:09:24 PM 508 Views
And the cookies are not a lie... at last night's meeting, we had Thin Mints - 15/03/2012 09:51:30 PM 623 Views
Yeah, I just meant perception - 16/03/2012 02:39:30 AM 621 Views
Re: Yeah, I just meant perception - 16/03/2012 03:32:07 AM 542 Views
Maybe I am - 16/03/2012 11:57:04 PM 570 Views
I'm not sure "hole" is really the word for it... - 15/03/2012 10:46:58 PM 519 Views
One day Republicans and internet trolls alike will learn not to say weird shit to people like me. - 15/03/2012 12:30:17 AM 695 Views
This is quite a good post and I can offer further evidence - 15/03/2012 12:37:13 AM 547 Views
I like this post. - 15/03/2012 08:40:07 PM 567 Views
I don't mean to disrespect your seal, but it looks more like a cat. *NM* - 15/03/2012 08:52:26 PM 217 Views
This made me laugh way more than it should have *NM* - 15/03/2012 09:07:08 PM 238 Views
me too *NM* - 15/03/2012 11:58:52 PM 221 Views
Couple notes - 15/03/2012 09:29:23 PM 499 Views
Yeah... - 15/03/2012 09:49:14 PM 530 Views
I like that logo better - 15/03/2012 09:57:39 PM 482 Views
Depends on the state of the economy - 15/03/2012 08:52:32 PM 527 Views

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