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What's happening nossy Send a noteboard - 05/03/2012 02:24:41 PM
Is that you're taking his comment too far. I might be wrong, but it seems that Tim (and people like him) are saying that, first and foremost, they do not believe there is a God of any sort (atheism). Conversationally conceding that one can't know everything is NOT agnosticism - it's much closer to me as a Christian saying that I believe A, but I'm willing to review and potentially accept B if reasonable enough new information should ever appear. Would you try to claim that means I am not currently a Christian? We think we're right, but you know we cannot know that we're 100% correct any more than an Atheist can.

You're describing a situation in which (to qualify as Atheist) any person MUST state that any/all new information is irrelevant - that God does not exist, no matter what. How many real people are willing to be so smug in their statements? Since you seem to know so many more interesting people than I do, I'm sure you'll know some who perfectly fit that description, but as I've tried to point out previously, you have to leave room in definitions for real people. I think the burden is on you to call your definition something more like "fringe, fundamentalist atheism."
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Re: I actually find that conversation quite interesting. - 29/02/2012 09:07:06 PM 1060 Views
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Question - 29/02/2012 07:58:32 PM 1040 Views
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one thing - 29/02/2012 06:25:45 PM 1076 Views
Precisely *NM* - 29/02/2012 06:59:15 PM 505 Views
Bad example - 05/03/2012 05:06:21 AM 1124 Views
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Some answers - 28/02/2012 09:05:35 PM 947 Views
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On the other hand ... - 28/02/2012 09:28:27 PM 874 Views
For some reason I always imagine Buddhists as the monk class on RPG games... *NM* - 28/02/2012 10:13:27 PM 506 Views
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Telling anyone what they actually believe will work. *NM* - 28/02/2012 10:51:56 PM 474 Views
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I second that - 29/02/2012 03:46:15 AM 995 Views
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What I am doing is using the terms as they were universally used until about the time I was born. - 05/03/2012 01:11:21 AM 1040 Views
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I call them both agnostic, but the former leans toward atheism while the latter has no lean. - 05/03/2012 10:53:02 AM 1077 Views
See, there you go again, defining atheism in such a way as to make it sound ridiculous. - 05/03/2012 11:21:17 AM 891 Views
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What's happening - 05/03/2012 02:24:41 PM 1093 Views
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Oh really? The guy who was doing it to annoy people? - 07/03/2012 09:53:38 PM 996 Views
The guy who was doing it to annoy atheists based on the terms technical and popular meaning, yes. - 11/03/2012 04:04:36 AM 886 Views
Whatever. - 12/03/2012 12:39:24 AM 1347 Views
*NM* - 12/03/2012 01:14:39 AM 509 Views
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I saw it as.... - 13/03/2012 10:44:37 PM 919 Views
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I have a few good quotes for this one. - 29/02/2012 03:29:22 PM 1010 Views
I snerfled. *NM* - 29/02/2012 05:12:32 PM 493 Views
Re: That's it? *NM* - 01/03/2012 06:33:48 AM 549 Views
Re: Do you know the best way to anger an atheist? - 02/03/2012 01:47:03 AM 944 Views

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