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Re: You should put that on your license plates. Isaac Send a noteboard - 03/03/2012 06:51:00 AM
Better than the alternative "Welcome to the Western Reserve, Ax crazy serial killers and gunmen drink free"

... Only Ohio, glorious Ohio... MWAHAHAHAHA!!! we're like the Anthony Kennedy of the states ]<img class=' />

NOT! :P I am unsure how much VP choices really matter for swinging states anymore, though it does not really help that recent candidates have chosen their VP for other reasons. The last president I think might actually have won a state because of his VP was Reagan in 1980. Even then, it is hard to argue TX really voted for him because of a CT carbetbagger who never managed more than a couple House elections. So we are back to JFK/LBJ (once again in TX, oddly.)


I don't think Darth Vader or the Gaffe Machine represent wonderful strategic choices anyway. It still matters, Rubio is well-liked and especially by the GOP there.

Of course, FL should actually be close, and is certainly critical now that it has the third most EVs, so putting Rubio on the ticket would be a smart move (and help Romneys credibility with the base.) It might even help seal the deal in AZ and put NM in play (it could be argued Rubio has little in common with Southwestern voters save religion and immigrant ancestors, but both are huge.) In that case Obama would be in truly dire straits, because Romney has to be the favorite in NH, and that would mean Obama could afford no more losses except IA—even WITH OH (sorry.) Looking at the map, it is hard to see why so many Dems are so cheery.


This stuff always unguessable until maybe a week out, and then of course afterwards it was 'inevitable', I can't see Rubio hurting Romney in the Pop vote or EV. Guessing VP candidates this early out is also an exercise in futility though, I happen to be a big Rubio fan is all.
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Now That Romney Is Officially the Republican Presidential Nominee: Pick the President! Joel - 29/02/2012 08:29:02 PM 1372 Views
I agree Romney will be the candidate. Tom - 29/02/2012 08:54:52 PM 741 Views
I would say the math favors Romney over Obama, but it will probably be close either way. Joel - 01/03/2012 03:37:52 PM 792 Views
I have never understood the point of the Electoral College. Tim - 29/02/2012 11:39:11 PM 791 Views
You don't think like a politician then Isaac - 01/03/2012 12:38:36 AM 842 Views
I certainly hadn't considered much of that. I'm glad you posted it. *NM* Ghavrel - 01/03/2012 07:15:03 AM 350 Views
I also have not seen most of that mentioned in the popular vs. electoral debate. Joel - 01/03/2012 02:34:31 PM 718 Views
what about one vote one value? wadsy - 02/03/2012 11:51:32 PM 869 Views
That has not really changed. Joel - 03/03/2012 03:30:34 AM 993 Views
a bit simplistic and unrealistic wadsy - 02/03/2012 11:44:02 PM 768 Views
When illustrating a point realism is not required and simplicity is a plus Isaac - 03/03/2012 03:04:26 AM 797 Views
I have a couple quibbles. Joel - 03/03/2012 05:23:46 AM 826 Views
Oh, certainly, I'm over-generalizing but I was already getting long-winded Isaac - 03/03/2012 06:52:04 AM 762 Views
I hate when people do that. Joel - 05/03/2012 09:49:36 AM 785 Views
What a bunch of waffle! wadsy - 03/03/2012 10:47:19 AM 908 Views
First you complain of simplicity then of my lack of brevity? Isaac - 03/03/2012 11:18:11 AM 705 Views
A simplistic argument doesn't mean it's brief *NM* wadsy - 03/03/2012 09:55:51 PM 379 Views
Also I don't like this refrain that implies only the POTUS vote matters Isaac - 03/03/2012 03:29:58 AM 927 Views
IMHO, parliaments choosing prime ministers is LESS democratic than the electoral college. Joel - 03/03/2012 05:57:41 AM 727 Views
Re: IMHO, parliaments choosing prime ministers is LESS democratic than the electoral college. Isaac - 03/03/2012 07:02:30 AM 759 Views
*is learning* Joel - 04/03/2012 09:49:42 PM 757 Views
Re: *is learning* Isaac - 04/03/2012 09:56:16 PM 797 Views
To the extent I can (yet again) claim to speak for Europeans... Legolas - 04/03/2012 10:33:01 PM 732 Views
I've fairly limited exposure and that from some years back Isaac - 04/03/2012 11:35:12 PM 852 Views
Re: *is learning* Joel - 05/03/2012 12:08:08 AM 805 Views
You could imitate the French. Legolas - 07/03/2012 10:40:16 PM 751 Views
That seems... unlikely.... Joel - 08/03/2012 03:03:54 PM 750 Views
It does, doesn't it? Legolas - 08/03/2012 06:11:08 PM 937 Views
After I thought about it more, I realized France and the US are not so different in that respect. Joel - 08/03/2012 08:51:03 PM 712 Views
More similar than the other major Western democracies at least, agreed. Legolas - 08/03/2012 09:32:55 PM 699 Views
I did not realize lack of a parliamentary majority dictated his cabinet. Joel - 09/03/2012 12:27:31 AM 773 Views
I don't know much about Norwegian politics, but you seem to be wrong. Legolas - 03/03/2012 06:18:08 PM 787 Views
Do you happen to have that link, please? Joel - 03/03/2012 06:46:31 PM 651 Views
Sure. Legolas - 03/03/2012 06:58:07 PM 840 Views
Guess we did not read far enough. Joel - 03/03/2012 10:38:07 PM 775 Views
Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics... Legolas - 03/03/2012 11:49:44 PM 978 Views
Hey, man, I am an AMERICAN: I do not HAVE to know ANYTHING! Joel - 04/03/2012 11:46:57 PM 990 Views
Re: Hey, man, I am an AMERICAN: I do not HAVE to know ANYTHING! Legolas - 05/03/2012 11:14:42 PM 1369 Views
Re: Hey, man, I am an AMERICAN: I do not HAVE to know ANYTHING! Joel - 08/03/2012 02:56:02 PM 835 Views
Re: Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics... DomA - 05/03/2012 06:56:24 AM 773 Views
The thing is, regions often have national relevance far greater than their populations would suggest Joel - 05/03/2012 10:21:26 AM 724 Views
Fascinating. Legolas - 05/03/2012 10:52:32 PM 775 Views
Re: Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics... Macharius - 08/03/2012 07:11:12 PM 717 Views
Many valid reasons, including those Isaac cited. Joel - 02/03/2012 02:26:37 AM 881 Views
Most states are ignored anyway wadsy - 02/03/2012 11:56:12 PM 950 Views
Only because and to the extent they have already committed themselves. Joel - 03/03/2012 03:41:39 AM 800 Views
Why would we do something logical? Dude, you're utterly ridiculous. *NM* callandor1000 - 05/03/2012 04:53:38 PM 408 Views
I'm kind of sad- does this mean Santorum won't be providing wonderful sound bites anymore? beetnemesis - 01/03/2012 02:22:31 PM 714 Views
Nothing has shut him up yet, why should this? *NM* Dannymac - 01/03/2012 05:27:30 PM 394 Views
Maybe he'll pull a Palin and go touring around the country *NM* beetnemesis - 01/03/2012 07:06:02 PM 356 Views
No, it probably means we will get more and worse than ever. Joel - 01/03/2012 11:25:25 PM 887 Views
Romney or Obama, either way, America loses. *NM* Hieshyn - 02/03/2012 01:10:26 AM 559 Views
Hard to dispute that either; six of one, half a dozen of the other. Joel - 02/03/2012 01:38:07 AM 694 Views
Couldn't agree more *NM* Hieshyn - 02/03/2012 06:52:51 PM 466 Views
It reminds me of when Denver backed into the NFL playoffs. Joel - 02/03/2012 09:36:13 PM 684 Views
I'd agree hope and change was extremely unrealistic wadsy - 02/03/2012 11:58:57 PM 693 Views
Well, you know my story there; I voted for Obama and got Hillary (at best.) Joel - 03/03/2012 01:43:20 AM 718 Views
Update: Despite rules requiring they be split, the MI GOP is giving Romney BOTH statewide delegates. Joel - 02/03/2012 11:10:56 PM 797 Views
Romney is damaged wadsy - 02/03/2012 11:27:33 PM 705 Views
Obama is rather damaged also; it will probably come down to FL and OH, yet again. Joel - 03/03/2012 02:23:53 AM 827 Views
I'm hoping for Rubio as VP... then FL probably won't matter Isaac - 03/03/2012 04:28:08 AM 691 Views
You should put that on your license plates. Joel - 03/03/2012 06:41:34 AM 819 Views
Re: You should put that on your license plates. Isaac - 03/03/2012 06:51:00 AM 767 Views
Ax murderers are people, too! Joel - 04/03/2012 08:23:41 PM 715 Views
And what are you basing all of this on? wadsy - 03/03/2012 09:54:06 PM 816 Views
The closeness of several states when Obama was far more popular, and UTs heavily Mormon neighbors. Joel - 03/03/2012 11:44:06 PM 767 Views
Wrong wadsy - 04/03/2012 08:08:56 AM 893 Views
Higher turnout magnifies the Mormon effect. Joel - 04/03/2012 08:08:09 PM 932 Views
Your reasoning is flawed and if you can't see it there is no hope for you wadsy - 05/03/2012 11:39:04 PM 843 Views
Yeah, I think we had that conversation already, several times, in fact. Joel - 07/03/2012 05:36:45 AM 676 Views
Do you have any knowledge of statistics at all? wadsy - 07/03/2012 09:04:15 PM 843 Views
I hate this message board wadsy - 07/03/2012 09:06:30 PM 624 Views
It would probably help if you deleted the stuff from two, three posts back? Legolas - 07/03/2012 09:25:40 PM 737 Views
Some, though it is far from exhaustive. Joel - 08/03/2012 02:29:06 PM 850 Views
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