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Also I don't like this refrain that implies only the POTUS vote matters Isaac Send a noteboard - 03/03/2012 03:29:58 AM
Another reason I'm not terribly fond of increasing the youth vote, everybody gets to vote for their senators, congressman, and Gov, most of us get to vote for... I believe I worked out I have 67 positions of various 2,4, and 6 year terms to vote for, plus various levies. Honestly, I don't really want anyone voting for anything if they can't name at least half of those positions and I really don't want to encourage people to vote in droves every four years only to do straight-party ticket without looking at the names or consistently pick Johnny Uniteus over Afold Heitlar even though Afold is dedicated and competent man and Johnny's godfather is well known to all by that sobriquet. I used to be a big fan of getting out the vote, though I've never approved of Popular for POTUS, but these days given a choice I wouldn't even have any other elections simultaneous to Pres. I'm not denying that a popular vote is more fair in the 'one man, one vote, equal say' philosophy, I just don't subscribe to that philosophy. It's not like the US is unique in not having direct elections for the main leader, most of the modern democracies have the legislature vote the leader... that's not terribly different then EC.
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a bit simplistic and unrealistic - 02/03/2012 11:44:02 PM 672 Views
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First you complain of simplicity then of my lack of brevity? - 03/03/2012 11:18:11 AM 607 Views
A simplistic argument doesn't mean it's brief *NM* - 03/03/2012 09:55:51 PM 337 Views
Also I don't like this refrain that implies only the POTUS vote matters - 03/03/2012 03:29:58 AM 834 Views
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*is learning* - 04/03/2012 09:49:42 PM 662 Views
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The closeness of several states when Obama was far more popular, and UTs heavily Mormon neighbors. - 03/03/2012 11:44:06 PM 674 Views
Wrong - 04/03/2012 08:08:56 AM 791 Views
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Your reasoning is flawed and if you can't see it there is no hope for you - 05/03/2012 11:39:04 PM 735 Views
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I hate this message board - 07/03/2012 09:06:30 PM 530 Views
Some, though it is far from exhaustive. - 08/03/2012 02:29:06 PM 712 Views

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