three quarters of the country are essentially left out of the campaign. Texas will not swing, New York will not California will not etc etc. So the democrats will try to run up their margins in the bigger cities etc whilst republicans will try to run it up out in the suburbs.
Saying that older people are usually more informed may be true but then having them being the ones that are voting leads to its own problems. They tend to have an outsized influence on policy. Younger people are disenfranchised and generally don't feel part of the political process. Not to mention that just being informed about the issues doesn't really count anyway as the ones that are most informed aren't going to be changing their votes. It's the swing voters that aren't really engaged that end up deciding most elections. Then of course if you do get a whole load of people on one side who are engaged then you get things like the republican house. Oh and suggesting that you would end up with more younger people than older people voting is not consistent with demographic trends.
Btw I am fairly certain that paying people to vote or giving them tax breaks would be illegal.
a simple popular vote would be encouraging candidates and parties to have nationwide organisations. Every vote would matter. Not to mention the fact though that under the current system whoever wins the popular vote wins the presidency unless it is extremely close. In which case you would imagine that the popular vote winner should get the presidency rather than the electoral college winner.
btw you really broadened the argument from a simple electoral college and popular vote measure to one where you were including compulsory voting.
Saying that older people are usually more informed may be true but then having them being the ones that are voting leads to its own problems. They tend to have an outsized influence on policy. Younger people are disenfranchised and generally don't feel part of the political process. Not to mention that just being informed about the issues doesn't really count anyway as the ones that are most informed aren't going to be changing their votes. It's the swing voters that aren't really engaged that end up deciding most elections. Then of course if you do get a whole load of people on one side who are engaged then you get things like the republican house. Oh and suggesting that you would end up with more younger people than older people voting is not consistent with demographic trends.
Btw I am fairly certain that paying people to vote or giving them tax breaks would be illegal.
a simple popular vote would be encouraging candidates and parties to have nationwide organisations. Every vote would matter. Not to mention the fact though that under the current system whoever wins the popular vote wins the presidency unless it is extremely close. In which case you would imagine that the popular vote winner should get the presidency rather than the electoral college winner.
btw you really broadened the argument from a simple electoral college and popular vote measure to one where you were including compulsory voting.
Now That Romney Is Officially the Republican Presidential Nominee: Pick the President!
29/02/2012 08:29:02 PM
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I agree Romney will be the candidate.
29/02/2012 08:54:52 PM
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I would say the math favors Romney over Obama, but it will probably be close either way.
01/03/2012 03:37:52 PM
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I have never understood the point of the Electoral College.
29/02/2012 11:39:11 PM
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You don't think like a politician then
01/03/2012 12:38:36 AM
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I certainly hadn't considered much of that. I'm glad you posted it. *NM*
01/03/2012 07:15:03 AM
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I also have not seen most of that mentioned in the popular vs. electoral debate.
01/03/2012 02:34:31 PM
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a bit simplistic and unrealistic
02/03/2012 11:44:02 PM
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When illustrating a point realism is not required and simplicity is a plus
03/03/2012 03:04:26 AM
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I have a couple quibbles.
03/03/2012 05:23:46 AM
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Oh, certainly, I'm over-generalizing but I was already getting long-winded
03/03/2012 06:52:04 AM
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What a bunch of waffle!
03/03/2012 10:47:19 AM
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Also I don't like this refrain that implies only the POTUS vote matters
03/03/2012 03:29:58 AM
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IMHO, parliaments choosing prime ministers is LESS democratic than the electoral college.
03/03/2012 05:57:41 AM
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Re: IMHO, parliaments choosing prime ministers is LESS democratic than the electoral college.
03/03/2012 07:02:30 AM
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*is learning*
04/03/2012 09:49:42 PM
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Re: *is learning*
04/03/2012 09:56:16 PM
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Re: *is learning*
05/03/2012 12:08:08 AM
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You could imitate the French.
07/03/2012 10:40:16 PM
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That seems... unlikely....
08/03/2012 03:03:54 PM
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It does, doesn't it?
08/03/2012 06:11:08 PM
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After I thought about it more, I realized France and the US are not so different in that respect.
08/03/2012 08:51:03 PM
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More similar than the other major Western democracies at least, agreed.
08/03/2012 09:32:55 PM
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I did not realize lack of a parliamentary majority dictated his cabinet.
09/03/2012 12:27:31 AM
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I don't know much about Norwegian politics, but you seem to be wrong.
03/03/2012 06:18:08 PM
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Do you happen to have that link, please?
03/03/2012 06:46:31 PM
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Sure.
03/03/2012 06:58:07 PM
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Guess we did not read far enough.
03/03/2012 10:38:07 PM
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Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics...
03/03/2012 11:49:44 PM
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Hey, man, I am an AMERICAN: I do not HAVE to know ANYTHING!
04/03/2012 11:46:57 PM
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Re: Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics...
05/03/2012 06:56:24 AM
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The thing is, regions often have national relevance far greater than their populations would suggest
05/03/2012 10:21:26 AM
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Re: Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics...
08/03/2012 07:11:12 PM
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Many valid reasons, including those Isaac cited.
02/03/2012 02:26:37 AM
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Most states are ignored anyway
02/03/2012 11:56:12 PM
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Only because and to the extent they have already committed themselves.
03/03/2012 03:41:39 AM
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Why would we do something logical? Dude, you're utterly ridiculous. *NM*
05/03/2012 04:53:38 PM
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I'm kind of sad- does this mean Santorum won't be providing wonderful sound bites anymore?
01/03/2012 02:22:31 PM
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Romney or Obama, either way, America loses. *NM*
02/03/2012 01:10:26 AM
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Hard to dispute that either; six of one, half a dozen of the other.
02/03/2012 01:38:07 AM
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I'd agree hope and change was extremely unrealistic
02/03/2012 11:58:57 PM
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Well, you know my story there; I voted for Obama and got Hillary (at best.)
03/03/2012 01:43:20 AM
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Update: Despite rules requiring they be split, the MI GOP is giving Romney BOTH statewide delegates.
02/03/2012 11:10:56 PM
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Romney is damaged
02/03/2012 11:27:33 PM
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Obama is rather damaged also; it will probably come down to FL and OH, yet again.
03/03/2012 02:23:53 AM
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I'm hoping for Rubio as VP... then FL probably won't matter
03/03/2012 04:28:08 AM
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You should put that on your license plates.
03/03/2012 06:41:34 AM
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And what are you basing all of this on?
03/03/2012 09:54:06 PM
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The closeness of several states when Obama was far more popular, and UTs heavily Mormon neighbors.
03/03/2012 11:44:06 PM
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Wrong
04/03/2012 08:08:56 AM
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Higher turnout magnifies the Mormon effect.
04/03/2012 08:08:09 PM
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Your reasoning is flawed and if you can't see it there is no hope for you
05/03/2012 11:39:04 PM
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Yeah, I think we had that conversation already, several times, in fact.
07/03/2012 05:36:45 AM
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Do you have any knowledge of statistics at all?
07/03/2012 09:04:15 PM
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I hate this message board
07/03/2012 09:06:30 PM
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It would probably help if you deleted the stuff from two, three posts back?
07/03/2012 09:25:40 PM
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