seems really rude and condescending to me. Not that there can be no love involved. I realize the two seem mutually exclusive, but I don't think they are.
And I'm sorry that my viewpoint is uncomfortable for you. I suppose it has to be, in a disagreement. As I said above, I don't think there is no love involved (pure motive), but I do think it's not your place to make that choice. I appreciate the nice comments, and I apologize if I wasn't careful enough with my statements. I'm sure I could have been nicer about all of it.
It is important to really weigh whether a situation is offensive, but I don't think we can always avoid being offended, or that we should try to. Some things are wrong, and feeling or causing "offense" is what makes us think about our choices. If we believe them firmly enough, we may still wish to do them, regardless.
As for your subject line, it took me a second to sort out what you meant by that
. You can term it how you like. You have phrased it to more strongly bring out the negative implication of someone having been wrong. That is the lens you choose to view it through.

We obviously will have to agree to disagree. I don't love that you question the motives I stated, but then we don't know each other at all so I can't blame you. And I all but stated that I thought you were probably trying to be offended in order to find it really effing rude. So that wasn't fair of me either.
And I'm sorry that my viewpoint is uncomfortable for you. I suppose it has to be, in a disagreement. As I said above, I don't think there is no love involved (pure motive), but I do think it's not your place to make that choice. I appreciate the nice comments, and I apologize if I wasn't careful enough with my statements. I'm sure I could have been nicer about all of it.
As for the zingy quote, it is one of my favorites and I like to remind myself to not get offended when no offense is intended. It probably just sounded condescending quoting it to you. I apologize about that.
It is important to really weigh whether a situation is offensive, but I don't think we can always avoid being offended, or that we should try to. Some things are wrong, and feeling or causing "offense" is what makes us think about our choices. If we believe them firmly enough, we may still wish to do them, regardless.
Do you know the best way to anger an atheist?
28/02/2012 07:10:57 PM
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Or, you could baptize one of them, posthumously.
28/02/2012 07:32:48 PM
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I can't think of any reason for an atheist to be annoyed by that.
28/02/2012 11:08:44 PM
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Well, for starters, it's really effing rude.
28/02/2012 11:31:36 PM
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It is an act of love.
29/02/2012 12:34:03 AM
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Everyone does it for that reason? (edits for clarity)
29/02/2012 10:27:02 AM
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I have some disturbing news for you...
29/02/2012 06:42:41 PM
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For anyone reading this: the guy above is wrong, and I am admitting that to you on his behalf, so
29/02/2012 07:15:38 PM
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Maybe without realizing it, you have articulated....
29/02/2012 07:24:13 PM
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I actually find that conversation quite interesting.
29/02/2012 08:18:35 PM
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Re: I actually find that conversation quite interesting.
29/02/2012 09:07:06 PM
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I cannot possibly agree more with these two paragraphs of yours...
29/02/2012 09:28:09 PM
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I find the Fall perhaps the most interesting part.
02/03/2012 09:05:29 AM
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Re: I find the Fall perhaps the most interesting part.
02/03/2012 06:26:06 PM
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There are 3 critical distinctions: 1) Ability to sin, 2) Awareness of sin and 3) Appreciation of sin
05/03/2012 04:08:36 AM
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You said it was really effing rude.
29/02/2012 08:18:40 PM
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I meant that the act of choosing for someone else
29/02/2012 08:54:02 PM
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It is not an act of love to defy the beliefs of a loved one.
29/02/2012 02:32:45 PM
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Rape? That is ridiculous.
29/02/2012 05:26:13 PM
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It's a bit of hyperbole, but not too far from it, imo
29/02/2012 05:45:39 PM
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"Spiritual rape" might be going a bit far, but otherwise that sounds about right.
02/03/2012 08:06:48 AM
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Isn't religion different than faith, though?
28/02/2012 07:44:07 PM
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Yeah that's pretty much what I said
28/02/2012 08:21:56 PM
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that won't work on Buddists
28/02/2012 09:21:48 PM
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For some reason I always imagine Buddhists as the monk class on RPG games... *NM*
28/02/2012 10:13:27 PM
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That's always been my view of the issue. Half-assed non-religious types are just as obnoxious too.
28/02/2012 10:34:12 PM
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Seems a got both a pat on the back and a scathing rebuke. I call that a good day
28/02/2012 11:57:45 PM
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Best way to anger an atheist, by declaring all atheists are the same. *NM*
28/02/2012 10:38:51 PM
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Common error number 1: "Atheism isn't a lack of belief, but rather a belief that God doesn't exist."
28/02/2012 11:18:23 PM
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Curiously, anger at statements of simple obvious facts is a hallmark of religious fundamentalism.
29/02/2012 10:27:29 AM
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What you're doing there is defining "atheist" and "agnostic" in a way that suits you, but...
29/02/2012 11:50:27 AM
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What I am doing is using the terms as they were universally used until about the time I was born.
05/03/2012 01:11:21 AM
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So what do you call this position?:
05/03/2012 08:43:20 AM
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I call them both agnostic, but the former leans toward atheism while the latter has no lean.
05/03/2012 10:53:02 AM
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See, there you go again, defining atheism in such a way as to make it sound ridiculous.
05/03/2012 11:21:17 AM
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Well, is unswerving belief a good thing, or not?
05/03/2012 11:57:05 AM
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What's happening
05/03/2012 02:24:41 PM
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Conversationally, DKs use of "atheism" at the start of this convo is the only practical definition.
07/03/2012 03:10:18 AM
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Oh really? The guy who was doing it to annoy people?
07/03/2012 09:53:38 PM
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The guy who was doing it to annoy atheists based on the terms technical and popular meaning, yes.
11/03/2012 04:04:36 AM
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Whatever.
12/03/2012 12:39:24 AM
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I understand that as "I completely agree."
13/03/2012 12:11:18 AM
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I have known very few people who "believe" their religion from rearing and actually understand it.
29/02/2012 12:08:01 PM
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I thought that was "best way to make an atheist roll his/her eyes at you"? *NM*
29/02/2012 11:05:21 PM
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