It is not an act of love to defy the beliefs of a loved one.
LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 29/02/2012 02:32:45 PM
It's just disrespectful towards the memory of the dead. If this individual was really a loved one, don't you think he/she probably already heard everything the baptizer's had to say about their religion? And they had already turned aside "salvation"? That's their choice. It's certainly a HELL of a lot more condescending. "Well they told me they didn't want to be part of my religion their whole life, but now that they're dead and can't stop me, I can do what I think is best for them. Because I'm definitely right." Wow. way to be presumptuous.
There are many definitions of love...but this degree of disrespectful is always unacceptable in my book.
And, from a religious aspect, I find this practice of posthumously baptizing someone who refused a religion to be spiritual rape. That'd even apply to converting someone in one form of Christianity to another. If you make a Catholic into a Baptist after they die, it's still just...it's wrong to defy someone's spiritual decisions in such a manner. Period and end. That's my take on the matter.
There are many definitions of love...but this degree of disrespectful is always unacceptable in my book.
And, from a religious aspect, I find this practice of posthumously baptizing someone who refused a religion to be spiritual rape. That'd even apply to converting someone in one form of Christianity to another. If you make a Catholic into a Baptist after they die, it's still just...it's wrong to defy someone's spiritual decisions in such a manner. Period and end. That's my take on the matter.
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This message last edited by LadyLorraine on 29/02/2012 at 02:34:04 PM
Do you know the best way to anger an atheist?
28/02/2012 07:10:57 PM
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Or, you could baptize one of them, posthumously.
28/02/2012 07:32:48 PM
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I can't think of any reason for an atheist to be annoyed by that.
28/02/2012 11:08:44 PM
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Well, for starters, it's really effing rude.
28/02/2012 11:31:36 PM
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It is an act of love.
29/02/2012 12:34:03 AM
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Everyone does it for that reason? (edits for clarity)
29/02/2012 10:27:02 AM
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I have some disturbing news for you...
29/02/2012 06:42:41 PM
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For anyone reading this: the guy above is wrong, and I am admitting that to you on his behalf, so
29/02/2012 07:15:38 PM
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Maybe without realizing it, you have articulated....
29/02/2012 07:24:13 PM
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I actually find that conversation quite interesting.
29/02/2012 08:18:35 PM
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Re: I actually find that conversation quite interesting.
29/02/2012 09:07:06 PM
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I cannot possibly agree more with these two paragraphs of yours...
29/02/2012 09:28:09 PM
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I find the Fall perhaps the most interesting part.
02/03/2012 09:05:29 AM
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Re: I find the Fall perhaps the most interesting part.
02/03/2012 06:26:06 PM
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There are 3 critical distinctions: 1) Ability to sin, 2) Awareness of sin and 3) Appreciation of sin
05/03/2012 04:08:36 AM
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It is not an act of love to defy the beliefs of a loved one.
29/02/2012 02:32:45 PM
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Rape? That is ridiculous.
29/02/2012 05:26:13 PM
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It's a bit of hyperbole, but not too far from it, imo
29/02/2012 05:45:39 PM
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"Spiritual rape" might be going a bit far, but otherwise that sounds about right.
02/03/2012 08:06:48 AM
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Isn't religion different than faith, though?
28/02/2012 07:44:07 PM
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Yeah that's pretty much what I said
28/02/2012 08:21:56 PM
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that won't work on Buddists
28/02/2012 09:21:48 PM
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For some reason I always imagine Buddhists as the monk class on RPG games... *NM*
28/02/2012 10:13:27 PM
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That's always been my view of the issue. Half-assed non-religious types are just as obnoxious too.
28/02/2012 10:34:12 PM
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Seems a got both a pat on the back and a scathing rebuke. I call that a good day
28/02/2012 11:57:45 PM
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Best way to anger an atheist, by declaring all atheists are the same. *NM*
28/02/2012 10:38:51 PM
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Common error number 1: "Atheism isn't a lack of belief, but rather a belief that God doesn't exist."
28/02/2012 11:18:23 PM
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Curiously, anger at statements of simple obvious facts is a hallmark of religious fundamentalism.
29/02/2012 10:27:29 AM
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What you're doing there is defining "atheist" and "agnostic" in a way that suits you, but...
29/02/2012 11:50:27 AM
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What I am doing is using the terms as they were universally used until about the time I was born.
05/03/2012 01:11:21 AM
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So what do you call this position?:
05/03/2012 08:43:20 AM
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I call them both agnostic, but the former leans toward atheism while the latter has no lean.
05/03/2012 10:53:02 AM
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See, there you go again, defining atheism in such a way as to make it sound ridiculous.
05/03/2012 11:21:17 AM
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Well, is unswerving belief a good thing, or not?
05/03/2012 11:57:05 AM
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What's happening
05/03/2012 02:24:41 PM
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Conversationally, DKs use of "atheism" at the start of this convo is the only practical definition.
07/03/2012 03:10:18 AM
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Oh really? The guy who was doing it to annoy people?
07/03/2012 09:53:38 PM
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The guy who was doing it to annoy atheists based on the terms technical and popular meaning, yes.
11/03/2012 04:04:36 AM
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Whatever.
12/03/2012 12:39:24 AM
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I understand that as "I completely agree."
13/03/2012 12:11:18 AM
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I have known very few people who "believe" their religion from rearing and actually understand it.
29/02/2012 12:08:01 PM
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I thought that was "best way to make an atheist roll his/her eyes at you"? *NM*
29/02/2012 11:05:21 PM
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