I was laughing for Obama got what he wanted in the end, he won getting contraception for free helping poor people and the political battle.
I know that as well. I was responding to you in the first bit, and Joel in the second.
His compromise was not really a compromise but instead rearranging what he wanted in the first place in a way that couldn't be political assaulted without making his opponents look crazy.
Well, it can be, and they are doing that now, but I agree with you more than I agree with them. I don't think that makes them look all that crazy - there are still a lot of Catholic groups out there who won't stand for even the compromise.
Democrats bailing on Obama - War against the Catholic Church heats up
09/02/2012 04:03:35 AM
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This is not a war on Catholics, it is Obama being an idiot again.
09/02/2012 04:52:01 AM
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For someone who used to be a Con Law professor
10/02/2012 08:23:34 PM
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In general, I disagree with that view, but not in this particular case.
11/02/2012 02:02:42 AM
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Also, kudos for linking to a source, and a fairly non-partisan one as well.
09/02/2012 01:33:07 PM
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I am a non-partisan guy, so I only use unbiased sources! *NM*
09/02/2012 04:02:50 PM
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Wanting both parties to be hit by a bus does not make one non-partisan.
09/02/2012 10:05:28 PM
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You lost all credibility in the first line of your post.
09/02/2012 04:49:23 PM
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You actually think any of us has 'credibility' anymore in regards to neutrality? *NM*
09/02/2012 06:46:13 PM
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It's one thing to have a bias.
09/02/2012 07:28:51 PM
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Wow, talk about making a supernova out of a couple hydrogen atoms.
09/02/2012 08:41:44 PM
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The Catholic Church wants to eliminate the birth control coverage requirement entirely.
10/02/2012 12:24:01 AM
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Sounds like they just do not want Catholics directly financing; great argument for public healthcare
10/02/2012 02:27:36 AM
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I'm somewhat suprised that Obama blundered this badly.
10/02/2012 01:40:14 AM
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Why? Have you not been paying attention?
10/02/2012 02:03:43 AM
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If I am not satisfied with Romney then my Plan B is to not vote.
10/02/2012 10:58:34 PM
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How does that help anything? Except Romneys election chances, of course.
11/02/2012 01:08:22 AM
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No everynametaken this is not unconsitutional according to the first ammendment
11/02/2012 12:14:29 AM
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Obama doing this actually impresses me to no end.
10/02/2012 02:21:10 AM
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He is already preparing to cave.
10/02/2012 02:42:32 AM
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Why are you even replying to me? What you said has little meaning to what I said.
10/02/2012 03:33:27 AM
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Aaaaand you can put your hat back on now: Obama has already caved.
10/02/2012 04:04:30 PM
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Yup, the cave already happened.....you could have set your watch to this! *NM*
10/02/2012 05:00:02 PM
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Actually, no, I could not; I expected it to take another week or two.
11/02/2012 01:27:31 AM
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No, you don't have to buy it from insurers. You get it for free, just like everyone else will. *NM*
10/02/2012 09:55:53 PM
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"The employees can then buy the coverage directly from an insurer."
11/02/2012 01:25:52 AM
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Then that article is wrong.
11/02/2012 01:43:40 AM
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Two days ago the White House said it would not back down from requiring school/hospital compliance.
11/02/2012 01:57:50 AM
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So in summary... the article you posted was wrong.
11/02/2012 02:18:00 AM
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To soon to tell, but if you think so feel free to demand a correction from them.
11/02/2012 03:12:40 AM
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Losing the exchanges is a pretty big loss
11/02/2012 03:30:15 AM
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So they refuse to cover it for the next two years, then do an about face in 2014.
11/02/2012 03:57:53 AM
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If Aetna does not provide the free contraception as part of the compromise
11/02/2012 02:46:14 AM
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Yeah, I saw that; if Aetna does not do as Obama says by 2014 they lose out on free profits then.
11/02/2012 03:13:36 AM
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So Jehovah Witness employers should not have to pay for blood transfusions?
10/02/2012 03:57:47 AM
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Not if it conflicts with their religious beliefs.
10/02/2012 04:20:32 PM
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Money is not the same as speech!
10/02/2012 07:20:56 PM
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And actions are different from both—until others are expected to pay for ones actions.
11/02/2012 12:53:40 AM
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No it isn't Joel, empirically you are dead wrong
10/02/2012 11:24:19 PM
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I do not see how requiring private entities do it instead of the feds is "least restrictive way."
11/02/2012 12:53:22 AM
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Catholic Charities of Sacramento Inc. v. Superior Court
11/02/2012 01:21:46 AM
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"the Court found that it wasn't a religious organization, it was just a non-profit corporation."
11/02/2012 01:36:33 AM
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One last point
10/02/2012 11:35:25 PM
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The federal government forcing private groups to facilitate without committing sin also infringes.
11/02/2012 01:03:30 AM
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You argument does not make sense
11/02/2012 01:26:57 AM
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It was an analogy, not an equivalency.
11/02/2012 01:48:14 AM
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Lets enhance your analogy making it closer to reality
11/02/2012 02:19:41 AM
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Why could I not buy it with my own money?
11/02/2012 03:46:33 AM
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Re: Why could I not buy it with my own money?
11/02/2012 04:17:17 AM
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In other words, I could.
11/02/2012 04:21:05 AM
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You believe it can't help people since it is not single payer? *NM*
11/02/2012 04:31:13 AM
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Since you answered this in your other response I will just adress it there. *MN*
11/02/2012 05:59:37 AM
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Some more points
11/02/2012 02:30:27 AM
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Sex is not a necessity either.
11/02/2012 03:56:51 AM
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LMAO due to Obama's compromise (the word compromise should have a in it )
11/02/2012 12:12:57 AM
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Obama just got two weeks of being portrayed as "anti-church" to the point even Dems complained.
11/02/2012 02:00:28 AM
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The polls disagree with you.
11/02/2012 02:32:59 AM
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It is an interesting article, but not for the polls.
11/02/2012 04:18:17 AM
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I wouldn't put too much into that poll anyway
11/02/2012 05:37:05 AM
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Frankly, I hope Obamacare DOES die, just not because of the public mandate.
11/02/2012 07:18:04 AM
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I haven't really heard about it outside of this post, so the negative exposure can't be too bad.
11/02/2012 05:56:58 PM
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There seems to be plenty of Hell raising over it, but you are in the States and I am not.
11/02/2012 07:55:51 PM
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I don't think it's quite the laughing matter you think it is
11/02/2012 12:31:23 PM
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Nossy that was not Joel, that was me
11/02/2012 01:56:39 PM
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I know that.
11/02/2012 03:23:32 PM
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Understood.
11/02/2012 07:51:14 PM
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mmm...
11/02/2012 08:20:26 PM
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The man talked about during the campaign was the one elected with a mandate.
12/02/2012 02:28:15 AM
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I think Obama (for once) was far more clever you give him credit for...
15/02/2012 05:11:10 PM
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Surrendering on liberal issues then blaming Republicans is not just Obamas strategy, but his POLICY.
15/02/2012 07:23:04 PM
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