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It's ok, we're done. *NM* nossy Send a noteboard - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM
I don't care what they say, I care how they act. They act like people who are concerned with pushing a particular view of sex. That view is socially conservative, generally religiously motivated, and undoubtedly oppressive.

A zygote is part of the process by which a human is created. So are ova and sperm. None of them has the moral weight of a self-aware person.
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Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit) nossy - 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM 2398 Views
The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing beetnemesis - 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM 1280 Views
I agree. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM 1163 Views
I can understand it though. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 05:45:55 PM 1242 Views
I can too, it just isn't for me. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:58:33 PM 1167 Views
Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM 1163 Views
I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM 1118 Views
If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM 1220 Views
That is a little unfair. Joel - 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM 1457 Views
Won't someone please think of the children?! Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM 1209 Views
I think you're leaving out some important points. nossy - 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM 1134 Views
Ah, the good ol' silent majority. Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM 1124 Views
So which moron is feeding you this crap? Ray - 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM 1177 Views
A zygote isn't a person, because it doesn't have a brain. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:33:29 AM 1144 Views
It worries me when we think alike.... Joel - 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM 1217 Views
Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM 1295 Views
"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation." Joel - 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM 1211 Views
Oh please. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM 1159 Views
Re: Oh please yourself. Joel - 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM 1038 Views
Quite a telling reply. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM 1134 Views
Re: I quite agree. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM 1332 Views
You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM 1138 Views
No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM 1209 Views
I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM 1468 Views
I presented factual rebuttals. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM 1233 Views
You continue to miss the point. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM 1323 Views
No, I got the point: You expect me to accept a heavily biased, partisan and combative "source." Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:37 AM 1242 Views
The claim of brain waves at 8 weeks is still unsupported by evidence, i.e. a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 09:16:14 PM 1306 Views
Well, yes. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM 1230 Views
A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM 1152 Views
You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect. nossy - 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM 1254 Views
Ignoring what? You haven't shown me anything solid. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 05:25:23 AM 1140 Views
It's ok, we're done. *NM* nossy - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM 682 Views
Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Joel - 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM 1304 Views
Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM 1148 Views
If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM 1000 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM 1179 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM 1120 Views
I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 1253 Views
Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM 1353 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM 1202 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM 1220 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM 1314 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM 1198 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM 1522 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:44 AM 1176 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 10:27:23 PM 1440 Views
There are problems with the implants LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM 1187 Views
Any form of birth control doesn't work for everyone, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:37:00 AM 1203 Views
Oh yes, I totally agree! My point is just that there are some barriers to handing out implants *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 03:38:05 AM 553 Views
You have a talent for understatement. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:08:40 PM 1191 Views
What on earth does that have to do with anything? Cannoli - 03/02/2012 01:47:42 AM 1115 Views
I was actually kinda with you until you closed with that anathema I condemned in my response to rt. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:39:06 PM 1155 Views
I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart Ray - 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM 1331 Views
I agree. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM 1112 Views
yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other Ray - 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM 1162 Views
Right nossy - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1221 Views
it is a judgment call and I hope her decision is based on more than my guesses Ray - 02/02/2012 06:53:50 PM 1088 Views
Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side? Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM 1157 Views
No, I don't. I don't believe I said that? nossy - 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM 1069 Views
You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM 1161 Views
I know I'm not always clear. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM 1150 Views
Just curious... Narg - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM 1140 Views
Not at all. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM 1202 Views
Not at all? Narg - 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM 1100 Views
No. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM 1036 Views
My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM 1139 Views
Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes nossy - 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM 1132 Views
wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks Ray - 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM 1112 Views
Ooor, the best. nossy - 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM 1096 Views
ok now you are just being mean *NM* Ray - 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM 666 Views
The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM 620 Views
rabble rouser *NM* Ray - 04/02/2012 04:24:01 AM 682 Views
I misread this at first Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 12:51:44 AM 1156 Views
not to mention codeine seems to make me double post Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:26 PM 2194 Views
I'm not so sure I agree. Or not completely. nossy - 02/02/2012 06:14:11 PM 1079 Views
I don't diagree with the way you see it Ray - 02/02/2012 06:39:41 PM 1150 Views
More inevitable than anything, considering who started Komen. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:19:34 PM 1093 Views
Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant... Legolas - 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM 1206 Views
You don't know stuff. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM 1188 Views
I know the stuff that matters. Legolas - 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM 1078 Views
That's true. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:34:32 PM 1187 Views
they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN Ray - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM 1228 Views
"Accused" of = unfounded slander. Aeryn - 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM 1274 Views
did you notice I called tactic disgusting? That doesn't mean it isn't effective Ray - 03/02/2012 12:45:10 AM 1181 Views
The investigation by Congress is well-known to be specious. It's the House GOP abusing their power. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:41:58 AM 713 Views
This is so foreign a debate for me Lews_TherinThelamon - 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM 1208 Views
Must be nice. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 12:26:49 AM 716 Views
Re: stuff rebelaessedai - 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM 1079 Views
I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer" LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM 1139 Views
Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM 1217 Views
I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that LadyLorraine - 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM 1078 Views
Fair enough. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 10:17:31 PM 1222 Views
Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:54:34 PM 1185 Views
Re: Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. nossy - 02/02/2012 11:03:32 PM 1087 Views
After a little more digging I have to say you are probably right. Joel - 03/02/2012 02:23:14 AM 1026 Views
They restored funding incidentally Isaac - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM 1093 Views
Unless I've missed it nossy - 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM 1160 Views
You must have missed it then Isaac - 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM 1093 Views
If you're referring to Cannoli nossy - 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM 1256 Views
Multiple was not an accidental choice of words Isaac - 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM 1136 Views
Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. nossy - 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM 1169 Views
Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. Isaac - 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM 1347 Views
Well, I'll try again for both of us. nossy - 04/02/2012 02:56:42 PM 1201 Views
Re: Well, I'll try again for both of us. Isaac - 04/02/2012 07:40:25 PM 1150 Views
well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision random thoughts - 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1275 Views
Re: well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision Isaac - 03/02/2012 06:29:34 PM 1051 Views
I think that ship sailed long ago. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:45:13 PM 1090 Views
Truth Dannymac - 04/02/2012 02:07:20 AM 1182 Views
I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM 1086 Views
Beyond the 26 senators, I'd imagine rumor of the more reliable sort Isaac - 03/02/2012 08:46:31 PM 1157 Views
Well, if they wrote AS senators rather than friends of Nancy Brinker, that probably qualifies. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:24:11 PM 1203 Views
Judge for yourself Isaac - 04/02/2012 12:01:06 AM 1218 Views
Well, a public letter makes whether they signed it "Sen. so-and-so" irrelevant: It is political. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:07:20 PM 1128 Views
are you trying to disprove the study you posted? random thoughts - 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM 1235 Views
To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM 1097 Views
you admit you have no incite into what happened Ray - 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM 1163 Views
Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM 1180 Views
educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker Ray - 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM 1105 Views
Dude. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:20:49 PM 1005 Views
Yo mama? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:32:11 AM 1210 Views
whhhhhhyyyyyy nossy - 04/02/2012 11:23:58 PM 1178 Views
Why would I not think that? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:46:15 AM 1029 Views
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