This started from the banning of video taping things happening in public
A Deathwatch Guard Send a noteboard - 03/02/2012 08:22:22 PM
So if there is such a ban, then that violates the freedom of everyone who isn't a cop, and gives the cops opportunities to abuse their powers. To address this and prevent such abuses, I suggested putting cameras on the cops. That way, the public wouldn't be able to make the propaganda videos that they do, and police are still held accountable. It was the solution I offered as the best out of various evils.
Ideally, I think such cameras are unnecessary, and the public should be allowed to video tape whatever they like in public and do whatever they like with it afterward. If lots of people use that power to create videos that they post on youtube that reflect poorly on cops, then that means that all of those people, and all the people supporting those videos, are ones that would have been against cops in the first place, so nothing is really being altered. I guarantee you that there were plenty of people who saw the video of the cop spraying college kids and didn't rage against the injustice and abuse of power, but instead laughed and thought "good job!" I know because I was one of them, so no matter what videos are posted or not posted, there will always be people that think cops are evil, that think cops are great, that think protestors are stupid, that think protestors are great, etc. No one is really going to be convinced by anything.
And if you're unhappy with videos that are made legally, and that are then modified, then the solution isn't to ban the taking of videos or to support the banning of videotaping, because that erodes at the rights that you seem to so strongly support. Instead what you should be doing is making your own videos that portray cops or protestors in the opposite light, or at least engaged in some other form of dialogue with people to add your voice to the public opinion you agree with.
Ideally, I think such cameras are unnecessary, and the public should be allowed to video tape whatever they like in public and do whatever they like with it afterward. If lots of people use that power to create videos that they post on youtube that reflect poorly on cops, then that means that all of those people, and all the people supporting those videos, are ones that would have been against cops in the first place, so nothing is really being altered. I guarantee you that there were plenty of people who saw the video of the cop spraying college kids and didn't rage against the injustice and abuse of power, but instead laughed and thought "good job!" I know because I was one of them, so no matter what videos are posted or not posted, there will always be people that think cops are evil, that think cops are great, that think protestors are stupid, that think protestors are great, etc. No one is really going to be convinced by anything.
And if you're unhappy with videos that are made legally, and that are then modified, then the solution isn't to ban the taking of videos or to support the banning of videotaping, because that erodes at the rights that you seem to so strongly support. Instead what you should be doing is making your own videos that portray cops or protestors in the opposite light, or at least engaged in some other form of dialogue with people to add your voice to the public opinion you agree with.
Upcoming Chicago G8 Summit Focuses Attention on Illinois First Amendment Infringement
03/02/2012 12:20:25 AM
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police officiers have nothing to fear fromvideo taping? Sorry Joel but that is pure crap
03/02/2012 01:01:51 AM
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There's a simple solution to this
03/02/2012 02:38:05 AM
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would you take a job where your ever move was captured on tape?
03/02/2012 02:59:46 AM
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I have had two, that I recall off the top of my head; SOME of us are NOT too good for some jobs.
03/02/2012 03:11:29 AM
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yes so we would end up with people like you as cops, thanks for making my point
03/02/2012 04:09:54 AM
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So if your point is invalid the problem is me; glad to see you are being objective here.
03/02/2012 04:23:03 AM
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If there were mobs of anger idiots looking set up situation where you could be defaimed
03/02/2012 04:50:36 AM
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If it makes you feel better, Rod Blagojevich agrees context ALWAYS exonerates ANYTHING.
03/02/2012 07:24:55 AM
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I'm not asking them to wear them when they go home for the day
03/02/2012 05:20:42 AM
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that is just Big Brother for thee but not for me
03/02/2012 05:45:02 PM
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This started from the banning of video taping things happening in public
03/02/2012 08:22:22 PM
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There are lots of jobs like that
03/02/2012 06:19:21 AM
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and how many of those cameras are controlled by activist looking to smear them?
03/02/2012 05:35:32 PM
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Isn't this already the case with many police officers / departments?
03/02/2012 01:02:25 PM
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Yes and no; in many cases they can and do turn off the cameras when it suits them.
03/02/2012 02:33:32 PM
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I have a job that does that. *NM*
03/02/2012 04:37:44 PM
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a lot of jobs monitor and area but very an individual to wear a camera *NM*
03/02/2012 05:47:59 PM
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Write a sentence that can be understood and maybe I'll reply with something relevant. *NM*
04/02/2012 04:57:27 PM
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i can't tell if you're making a point or just stupid....
03/02/2012 02:42:11 AM
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luck for my job isn't so hard. Judging you as stupid is an easy call
03/02/2012 03:46:12 AM
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The pepper spraying? That is the best you can do?
03/02/2012 02:54:43 AM
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OK I see the problem and it is rampant ignorance
03/02/2012 04:33:47 AM
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I think we could find a middle ground
03/02/2012 06:06:32 AM
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I agree there should be some middle ground
03/02/2012 05:26:33 PM
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Um, HELLO, it is a felony for journalists to tape police in IL, too.
03/02/2012 07:16:15 PM
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That is definitely the problem, though casting aspersions on everyone you can think of hurts, too.
03/02/2012 06:55:30 AM
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unfortunately most cops seem to want a double standard
03/02/2012 02:39:01 AM
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Ah; I did not realize the SCOTUS had overturned that.
03/02/2012 03:05:12 AM
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Well, public or private, one does not leave one's right to privacy at the door
03/02/2012 05:19:12 PM
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