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I was actually kinda with you until you closed with that anathema I condemned in my response to rt. Joel Send a noteboard - 03/02/2012 01:39:06 PM
The bulk of its activities are focused on contraception, STI screening, and cancer screening, and it places a particular emphasis on providing reproductive health care to people who otherwise wouldn't have access.

A lot of that stuff can be pricey- I know quite a few girls who have benefited tremendously just from getting discounted services from there.

For every single murderer in history, that was only a small part of what he did. A man who has lived for four decades goes down in memory for all time as a murderer for a single digit number of homicides. This sort of arrogance on the part of liberals, who, because they have the mainstream media's ear, don't need to pay attention to other people's opinions, is what leads to attacks on abortion clinics and doctors. People who are opposed to abortion do so BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IT IS MURDER! The fact that the destruction of innocent human life is just ONE of a wide-ranging array of activities and interests is a completely irrelevant criterion for the opponents of Planned Parenthood. Meanwhile, Ron Paul gets slammed for letting his name be associated with some writings of questionable content years ago, but for a liberal organization, heavily involved in a liberal issue, "it's just a small part of what they do." Everyone has to answer for their own actions. Period. The fact that they were founded to sterilize the black race out of existence - oh, no. That's no longer relevant. That they used to advise women to douche with Lysol - why would ANY women's health advocates have a problem with such a group? But religious education still has to contend with the fact that some backwoods, under-educated preachers in the medieval era were associated with the Flat-Earth society of their time. Companies today are still hounded about the fact that they sold computers to the Nazis, but Planned Parenthood goes by the same name under which the KKK praised them, and these sordid details of their history are allowed to die out. They are caught on tape giving practiced, experienced counsel on how to get around the laws against sex trafficking, but anyone who opposes them is "anti-woman." As far as I am concerned, take away those functions of the female anatomy with which PP is so involved in, and you have smaller, weaker, less rational men, who coast along under the protection of a hypocritical racket that lets them pass the consequences of their irresponsible behavior onto the rest of us. "My body, my choice," then pay for your own damn birth control, abortions, child care and educations. Your body, your choice, but the taxpayer picks up the bill. Who can blame a charitable foundation intended to support innocent female victims for backing out on supporting a group that victimizes the rest of society on behalf of irresponsible & selfish women.

Yeah, sorry, you cannot support the right of everyone to be free in precisely your preferred manner. I cannot make you vote for Obama just because I paid for the military that defends your right to vote. For one thing, I only paid for PART of it; you also paid for part of it, and if you did not enjoy the rights they defend you would deserve your money back (but then, IIRC, you think we long ago reached that stage, which is much of the problem. ;))

Yet on a far more important and fundamental level, you would not be free if I dictated your actions; even if I had the power it would be a betrayal of all my ideals as an American. Not only as an American though; if you believe everyone has the right to be free in precisely the manner you dictate it is time to trade in your bible for a copy of The Fountainhead. Fair warning: The prose is as much inferior as the philosophy. :[

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Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit) - 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM 2219 Views
The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing - 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM 1115 Views
I agree. - 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM 1016 Views
I can understand it though. - 02/02/2012 05:45:55 PM 1075 Views
I can too, it just isn't for me. - 02/02/2012 05:58:33 PM 1002 Views
Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill. - 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM 999 Views
I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal. - 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM 967 Views
If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM 1056 Views
That is a little unfair. - 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM 1262 Views
Won't someone please think of the children?! - 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM 1048 Views
I think you're leaving out some important points. - 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM 991 Views
Ah, the good ol' silent majority. - 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM 965 Views
So which moron is feeding you this crap? - 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM 986 Views
A zygote isn't a person, because it doesn't have a brain. - 05/02/2012 12:33:29 AM 984 Views
It worries me when we think alike.... - 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM 1022 Views
Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth. - 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM 1129 Views
"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation." - 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM 1044 Views
Oh please. - 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM 1008 Views
Re: Oh please yourself. - 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM 881 Views
Quite a telling reply. - 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM 945 Views
Re: I quite agree. - 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM 1151 Views
You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM 989 Views
No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me. - 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM 1013 Views
I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments. - 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM 1258 Views
I presented factual rebuttals. - 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM 1042 Views
You continue to miss the point. - 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM 1130 Views
Well, yes. - 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM 1051 Views
A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM 995 Views
You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect. - 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM 1089 Views
Ignoring what? You haven't shown me anything solid. - 05/02/2012 05:25:23 AM 991 Views
It's ok, we're done. *NM* - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM 601 Views
Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. - 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM 1085 Views
Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. - 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM 988 Views
If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM 823 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM 1000 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM 962 Views
I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though. - 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 1071 Views
Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM 1163 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM 1027 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM 1054 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM 1126 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM 1032 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM 1335 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 07/03/2012 01:47:44 AM 995 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 15/03/2012 10:27:23 PM 1250 Views
There are problems with the implants - 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM 1017 Views
You have a talent for understatement. - 03/02/2012 01:08:40 PM 1005 Views
What on earth does that have to do with anything? - 03/02/2012 01:47:42 AM 953 Views
I was actually kinda with you until you closed with that anathema I condemned in my response to rt. - 03/02/2012 01:39:06 PM 979 Views
I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart - 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM 1152 Views
I agree. - 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM 934 Views
yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other - 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM 1002 Views
Right - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1053 Views
Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side? - 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM 1001 Views
No, I don't. I don't believe I said that? - 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM 909 Views
You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry. - 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM 983 Views
I know I'm not always clear. - 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM 989 Views
Just curious... - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM 971 Views
Not at all. - 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM 1042 Views
Not at all? - 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM 933 Views
No. - 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM 884 Views
My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes - 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM 982 Views
Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes - 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM 981 Views
wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks - 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM 953 Views
Ooor, the best. - 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM 926 Views
ok now you are just being mean *NM* - 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM 595 Views
The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM* - 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM 543 Views
rabble rouser *NM* - 04/02/2012 04:24:01 AM 563 Views
I misread this at first - 03/02/2012 12:51:44 AM 986 Views
not to mention codeine seems to make me double post - 02/02/2012 11:17:26 PM 2025 Views
I'm not so sure I agree. Or not completely. - 02/02/2012 06:14:11 PM 920 Views
I don't diagree with the way you see it - 02/02/2012 06:39:41 PM 986 Views
More inevitable than anything, considering who started Komen. - 02/02/2012 10:19:34 PM 935 Views
Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant... - 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM 1056 Views
You don't know stuff. - 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM 1020 Views
I know the stuff that matters. - 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM 924 Views
That's true. - 02/02/2012 10:34:32 PM 1019 Views
they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM 1063 Views
"Accused" of = unfounded slander. - 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM 1083 Views
This is so foreign a debate for me - 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM 1039 Views
Must be nice. *NM* - 03/02/2012 12:26:49 AM 648 Views
Re: stuff - 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM 930 Views
I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer" - 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM 972 Views
Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no. - 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM 980 Views
I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that - 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM 926 Views
Fair enough. - 04/02/2012 10:17:31 PM 994 Views
They restored funding incidentally - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM 916 Views
Unless I've missed it - 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM 1001 Views
You must have missed it then - 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM 923 Views
If you're referring to Cannoli - 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM 1071 Views
Multiple was not an accidental choice of words - 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM 949 Views
Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. - 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM 988 Views
Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. - 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM 1179 Views
Well, I'll try again for both of us. - 04/02/2012 02:56:42 PM 1003 Views
Re: Well, I'll try again for both of us. - 04/02/2012 07:40:25 PM 976 Views
well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision - 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1112 Views
I think that ship sailed long ago. - 03/02/2012 08:45:13 PM 923 Views
Truth - 04/02/2012 02:07:20 AM 1030 Views
I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen. - 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM 918 Views
are you trying to disprove the study you posted? - 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM 1053 Views
To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover. - 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM 949 Views
you admit you have no incite into what happened - 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM 969 Views
Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite. - 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM 1021 Views
educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker - 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM 921 Views
Dude. - 04/02/2012 11:20:49 PM 860 Views
Yo mama? - 05/02/2012 05:32:11 AM 1013 Views
whhhhhhyyyyyy - 04/02/2012 11:23:58 PM 992 Views
Why would I not think that? - 05/02/2012 05:46:15 AM 882 Views

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