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After a little more digging I have to say you are probably right. Joel Send a noteboard - 03/02/2012 02:23:14 AM
A politician got political; what a surprise. ;) The only thing unexpected is that they had been funding Planned Parenthood in the first place.

In fact, given that Komen is focused exclusively on eliminating breast cancer, and the many studies showing a correlation between oral contraception and breast cancer incidence, that is somewhat unexpected even apart from political issues. One would think studies like this one:

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2010/09/the_pillbreast_cancer_connection.html

or those the National Cancer Institute cites (see link) would discourage Komen from funding an organization that actively promotes and assists widespread use of a known breast cancer risk factor. In terms of overall healthcare it is a mixed bag; the pill increases the risk of some cancers but reduces the risk of others, and reduces the risks of unplanned pregnancy. However, in terms of breast cancer alone (which is Komens sole concern,) it seems pretty straightforward.


I'm not sure I agree with that, primarily because I find it unlikely that many people stop taking birth control because they are afraid of breast cancer. The lack of funding from SGK would have no bearing on PP's distribution of birth control, though it might have an impact on how many women could receive a breast exam. Priorities, really. I can easily see how the two orgs might feel the need to work together to make sure women know all the options and keep up with the preventative care and breast exams.

Not so much because few women stop birth control from fear of breast cancer (though you are probably right about that, too; I am not sure how well known the correlation is) but because one article I saw at Slate stated Komens Planned Parenthood funding was ONLY for breast cancer screening. That makes the whole thing that much more ridiculous: Not a dime of their money was spent on abortions, and EVERY dime they cut is one less spent on breast cancer exams. It explains why they gave Planned Parenthood money despite the fact its promoting the pills heightens the risk of breast cancer, but not why they withdrew that money despite it being used exclusively to fight breast cancer.

Occams Razor says that, after decades of passionate complaints with Planned Parenthood from the vast majority of her friends and business associates, Nancy Brinker was ready to cave, and thought the specious Congressional investigation gave her the necessary cover. Guess not.
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Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit) nossy - 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM 2219 Views
The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing beetnemesis - 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM 1115 Views
I agree. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM 1016 Views
I can understand it though. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 05:45:55 PM 1075 Views
I can too, it just isn't for me. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:58:33 PM 1002 Views
Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM 999 Views
I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM 967 Views
If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM 1056 Views
That is a little unfair. Joel - 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM 1262 Views
Won't someone please think of the children?! Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM 1048 Views
I think you're leaving out some important points. nossy - 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM 991 Views
Ah, the good ol' silent majority. Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM 965 Views
So which moron is feeding you this crap? Ray - 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM 986 Views
A zygote isn't a person, because it doesn't have a brain. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:33:29 AM 984 Views
It worries me when we think alike.... Joel - 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM 1022 Views
Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM 1129 Views
"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation." Joel - 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM 1044 Views
Oh please. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM 1008 Views
Re: Oh please yourself. Joel - 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM 881 Views
Quite a telling reply. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM 945 Views
Re: I quite agree. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM 1151 Views
You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM 989 Views
No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM 1013 Views
I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM 1258 Views
I presented factual rebuttals. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM 1042 Views
You continue to miss the point. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM 1130 Views
No, I got the point: You expect me to accept a heavily biased, partisan and combative "source." Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:37 AM 1056 Views
The claim of brain waves at 8 weeks is still unsupported by evidence, i.e. a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 09:16:14 PM 1093 Views
Well, yes. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM 1051 Views
A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM 995 Views
You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect. nossy - 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM 1089 Views
Ignoring what? You haven't shown me anything solid. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 05:25:23 AM 991 Views
It's ok, we're done. *NM* nossy - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM 601 Views
Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Joel - 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM 1085 Views
Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM 988 Views
If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM 823 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM 1000 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM 962 Views
I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 1071 Views
Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM 1163 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM 1027 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM 1054 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM 1126 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM 1032 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM 1335 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:44 AM 995 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 10:27:23 PM 1250 Views
There are problems with the implants LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM 1017 Views
Any form of birth control doesn't work for everyone, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:37:00 AM 1040 Views
Oh yes, I totally agree! My point is just that there are some barriers to handing out implants *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 03:38:05 AM 478 Views
You have a talent for understatement. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:08:40 PM 1005 Views
What on earth does that have to do with anything? Cannoli - 03/02/2012 01:47:42 AM 953 Views
I was actually kinda with you until you closed with that anathema I condemned in my response to rt. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:39:06 PM 979 Views
I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart Ray - 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM 1152 Views
I agree. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM 934 Views
yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other Ray - 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM 1002 Views
Right nossy - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1053 Views
it is a judgment call and I hope her decision is based on more than my guesses Ray - 02/02/2012 06:53:50 PM 922 Views
Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side? Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM 1001 Views
No, I don't. I don't believe I said that? nossy - 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM 909 Views
You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM 983 Views
I know I'm not always clear. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM 989 Views
Just curious... Narg - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM 971 Views
Not at all. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM 1042 Views
Not at all? Narg - 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM 933 Views
No. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM 884 Views
My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM 982 Views
Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes nossy - 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM 981 Views
wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks Ray - 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM 953 Views
Ooor, the best. nossy - 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM 926 Views
ok now you are just being mean *NM* Ray - 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM 595 Views
The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM 543 Views
rabble rouser *NM* Ray - 04/02/2012 04:24:01 AM 563 Views
I misread this at first Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 12:51:44 AM 986 Views
not to mention codeine seems to make me double post Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:26 PM 2025 Views
I'm not so sure I agree. Or not completely. nossy - 02/02/2012 06:14:11 PM 920 Views
I don't diagree with the way you see it Ray - 02/02/2012 06:39:41 PM 986 Views
More inevitable than anything, considering who started Komen. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:19:34 PM 935 Views
Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant... Legolas - 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM 1056 Views
You don't know stuff. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM 1020 Views
I know the stuff that matters. Legolas - 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM 924 Views
That's true. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:34:32 PM 1019 Views
they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN Ray - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM 1063 Views
"Accused" of = unfounded slander. Aeryn - 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM 1083 Views
did you notice I called tactic disgusting? That doesn't mean it isn't effective Ray - 03/02/2012 12:45:10 AM 1009 Views
The investigation by Congress is well-known to be specious. It's the House GOP abusing their power. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:41:58 AM 654 Views
This is so foreign a debate for me Lews_TherinThelamon - 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM 1039 Views
Must be nice. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 12:26:49 AM 648 Views
Re: stuff rebelaessedai - 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM 930 Views
I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer" LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM 972 Views
Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM 980 Views
I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that LadyLorraine - 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM 926 Views
Fair enough. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 10:17:31 PM 994 Views
Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:54:34 PM 1016 Views
Re: Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. nossy - 02/02/2012 11:03:32 PM 947 Views
After a little more digging I have to say you are probably right. Joel - 03/02/2012 02:23:14 AM 875 Views
They restored funding incidentally Isaac - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM 916 Views
Unless I've missed it nossy - 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM 1001 Views
You must have missed it then Isaac - 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM 923 Views
If you're referring to Cannoli nossy - 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM 1071 Views
Multiple was not an accidental choice of words Isaac - 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM 949 Views
Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. nossy - 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM 988 Views
Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. Isaac - 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM 1179 Views
Well, I'll try again for both of us. nossy - 04/02/2012 02:56:42 PM 1003 Views
Re: Well, I'll try again for both of us. Isaac - 04/02/2012 07:40:25 PM 976 Views
well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision random thoughts - 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1112 Views
Re: well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision Isaac - 03/02/2012 06:29:34 PM 895 Views
I think that ship sailed long ago. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:45:13 PM 923 Views
Truth Dannymac - 04/02/2012 02:07:20 AM 1030 Views
I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM 918 Views
Beyond the 26 senators, I'd imagine rumor of the more reliable sort Isaac - 03/02/2012 08:46:31 PM 982 Views
Well, if they wrote AS senators rather than friends of Nancy Brinker, that probably qualifies. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:24:11 PM 1039 Views
Judge for yourself Isaac - 04/02/2012 12:01:06 AM 1042 Views
Well, a public letter makes whether they signed it "Sen. so-and-so" irrelevant: It is political. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:07:20 PM 973 Views
are you trying to disprove the study you posted? random thoughts - 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM 1053 Views
To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM 949 Views
you admit you have no incite into what happened Ray - 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM 969 Views
Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM 1021 Views
educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker Ray - 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM 921 Views
Dude. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:20:49 PM 860 Views
Yo mama? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:32:11 AM 1013 Views
whhhhhhyyyyyy nossy - 04/02/2012 11:23:58 PM 992 Views
Why would I not think that? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:46:15 AM 882 Views
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