I don't see much point in trying to preserve the archaic use of the word
Ray Send a noteboard - 28/01/2012 01:54:53 PM
The use of the term profession to describe a very narrow list of careers favored by the extra sons of the rich is an outdated system. There really is no question of the term professional was an elitist term. They even had specialized clothes so the ordinary people would know how special and important they are. Black cloaks for lawyers and red for Bishops. Military officers were considered Professionals, and they had the pretty clothes to prove it, even though as often as not their only real qualification was their father’s political connections.
Now the term is more often used to either simply describe what you do for a living or to describe how you go about your job but not how important your job makes you. If you conduct your job in a professional manner then you are professional. That includes acquiring the proper skill set and knowledge but it also includes how you conduct yourself. You may be an MD but if you are stealing pills from your patients to get high you are not behaving as a professional. I would consider the maid who doesn't steal from her guest more of a professional than the thieving doctor. Whatever it might have meant in Victorian times really shouldn’t be an issue since it really only applies to a social system that is not only dying but that needed more dirt thrown on its grave.
I think a modern and less elitist (because sorry some of you but elitist doesn't mean elite it just means arrogant) would be career vs job. Being a maid is a job but it isn’t much of a career. Maids she still try and behave in a professional manner though.
Do keep in mind prostitution is the oldest profession.
Now the term is more often used to either simply describe what you do for a living or to describe how you go about your job but not how important your job makes you. If you conduct your job in a professional manner then you are professional. That includes acquiring the proper skill set and knowledge but it also includes how you conduct yourself. You may be an MD but if you are stealing pills from your patients to get high you are not behaving as a professional. I would consider the maid who doesn't steal from her guest more of a professional than the thieving doctor. Whatever it might have meant in Victorian times really shouldn’t be an issue since it really only applies to a social system that is not only dying but that needed more dirt thrown on its grave.
I think a modern and less elitist (because sorry some of you but elitist doesn't mean elite it just means arrogant) would be career vs job. Being a maid is a job but it isn’t much of a career. Maids she still try and behave in a professional manner though.
Do keep in mind prostitution is the oldest profession.
Profession/professional
28/01/2012 06:22:40 AM
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I'm not sure I agree with that.
28/01/2012 10:59:31 AM
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Your last paragraph is pretty much the difference between what does/doesn't bother me. *NM*
28/01/2012 11:33:48 AM
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I don't see much point in trying to preserve the archaic use of the word
28/01/2012 01:54:53 PM
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Ha! That's silly.
28/01/2012 03:32:01 PM
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No it is silly to think you can make a living language stagnant
28/01/2012 05:38:27 PM
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That's hyperbole if I ever heard it.
28/01/2012 08:29:20 PM
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If you were to ask 100 Americans what their profession was they would tell you what their job was
29/01/2012 02:52:22 AM
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Ask 100 Americans "When did you cease raping children?"
29/01/2012 03:05:57 AM
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speaking of hyperbole *NM*
29/01/2012 03:09:45 AM
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There was no hyperbole in my response. Seems like we found two words you can't define properly.
30/01/2012 02:11:43 PM
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how many people want to acknowledge they're not in a "professional job"?
30/01/2012 02:25:25 PM
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look I know those of you who have earned the narrow definition of the word want to preserve it
30/01/2012 03:19:30 PM
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No, most of us just want to preserve the plain English meanings of words.
30/01/2012 06:53:22 PM
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That penultimate use is the only acceptable one in a non-professional context
28/01/2012 07:18:06 PM
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You're absolutely correct. It's just society trying to make shit jobs sound better.
28/01/2012 03:25:48 PM
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Yeah, it's important to denote which occupations demand extraordinary, society-affecting judgement.
28/01/2012 05:19:30 PM
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at this point, though, I think teaching should be professionalized
28/01/2012 05:37:46 PM
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that will be hard for them to do
28/01/2012 05:44:53 PM
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That is a good point.
28/01/2012 08:16:38 PM
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Nurses have unions, and I would consider them professionals. *NM*
03/02/2012 08:52:41 PM
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You need a license, don't you? *NM*
28/01/2012 08:15:10 PM
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We have a certification process that any college grad with common sense could pass.
28/01/2012 10:36:29 PM
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in my mind teaching is indeed a profession. *NM*
28/01/2012 08:25:18 PM
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and there is the problem
29/01/2012 02:59:15 AM
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A teacher must have a collage degree and not only that but
29/01/2012 11:07:51 AM
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what in the world makes you think that professions have strict codes of conduct?
30/01/2012 02:26:55 PM
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Connotations change. Deal with it. *NM*
28/01/2012 10:29:20 PM
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I find it funny that some of our conservatives are pro-PC all of a sudden.
28/01/2012 11:14:06 PM
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