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They aren't conditioned to murder, much less "in cold blood" Tom Send a noteboard - 16/01/2012 09:15:54 PM
Murder is the unlawful killing of another person with intent (usually "malice aforethought", but in some cases intent is shown through other means, as in felony murder statutes).

Killings committed in war against enemy combatants are, strictly speaking, not murder.

They are conditioned to kill the enemy without thinking, however, so I agree with you that far, and part of the process of making sure that soldiers can kill the enemy when necessary inevitably involves a dehumanization in their minds of that enemy. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that this happens ALL THE TIME in virtually EVERY war. We know that irregulars frequently go farther than that, mutilating corpses (such as chopping off genitalia and shoving it down the corpse's throat). Obviously, from a public relations perspective the army should avoid that sort of mutilation (unless they burn the bodies, which would be a good policy), but the real thing that was stupid here was to film it and distribute that video.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Am I the only one who doesn't care if the Marines piss on the corpses of Taliban? - 13/01/2012 03:28:08 PM 1748 Views
Eh, it makes our guys look like uncivilized barbarian hicks. - 13/01/2012 03:37:24 PM 935 Views
They're not? *NM* - 17/01/2012 09:52:28 AM 486 Views
Probably not the only one. - 13/01/2012 03:51:18 PM 1093 Views
I agree. *NM* - 13/01/2012 08:11:57 PM 452 Views
Well said. *NM* - 13/01/2012 10:52:26 PM 421 Views
Excellent post. - 14/01/2012 04:23:32 PM 781 Views
well said indeed. *NM* - 14/01/2012 06:30:21 PM 486 Views
Actually, IIRC, we were told the Afghanistan war was important because of the Talibans threat to us. - 14/01/2012 11:18:28 PM 796 Views
Yes, that was part of it. Of course. AND we were going to help bring democracy. - 15/01/2012 12:42:57 AM 762 Views
If we have time, sure. - 15/01/2012 10:18:31 PM 903 Views
ooookay. *NM* - 16/01/2012 12:12:06 AM 433 Views
? - 16/01/2012 01:17:37 AM 827 Views
Re: ? - 16/01/2012 12:22:39 PM 815 Views
I quite agree with Joel on this point (frightening as that admission may be). - 16/01/2012 02:01:05 PM 808 Views
Doesn't matter. - 16/01/2012 02:33:53 PM 808 Views
Your definition of "terrible thing" seems quite elastic. - 16/01/2012 07:21:12 PM 728 Views
I knew I had a good reason to hate you! - 16/01/2012 09:14:47 PM 802 Views
It took this post for you to realize that? - 16/01/2012 09:17:00 PM 779 Views
I am pissed at them - 13/01/2012 06:00:56 PM 1096 Views
Yup. *NM* - 13/01/2012 06:07:10 PM 458 Views
Nope, you aren't. - 13/01/2012 07:08:06 PM 747 Views
I have a strong feeling that this was not the worst that's been done to those bodies - 13/01/2012 10:43:34 PM 871 Views
any army simply reflects the society it is created from - 13/01/2012 11:06:57 PM 938 Views
Agreed - 14/01/2012 12:37:45 AM 810 Views
You're far from the only one, but I don't agree with it. - 14/01/2012 12:17:31 AM 894 Views
Awful. Worst post ever. *NM* - 14/01/2012 05:12:41 PM 590 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 14/01/2012 06:28:25 PM 435 Views
moral? - 14/01/2012 09:53:01 PM 871 Views
I agree it was stupid to record it, and a breach of policy. - 14/01/2012 11:05:49 PM 765 Views
im just baffled - 14/01/2012 11:36:32 PM 809 Views
Well, in the future you can expect it. - 15/01/2012 02:54:59 AM 767 Views
This shows that you are a bit of a sociopath *NM* - 15/01/2012 08:08:39 AM 394 Views
But we knew that already. *NM* - 15/01/2012 11:18:02 AM 422 Views
You're still upset I called American girls prudes. - 15/01/2012 04:43:31 PM 704 Views
I had forgotten you called American girls prudes - 16/01/2012 10:22:50 AM 790 Views
as someone said on the radio recently... - 16/01/2012 08:41:25 PM 791 Views
They aren't conditioned to murder, much less "in cold blood" - 16/01/2012 09:15:54 PM 879 Views
surprisingly there really is no conditioning to kill - 16/01/2012 09:33:51 PM 796 Views
You used the phrase enemy combatant... - 17/01/2012 10:34:41 PM 783 Views
they are a problematic enemy - 17/01/2012 11:41:11 PM 1082 Views
stop listening to idiots on the radio *NM* - 16/01/2012 09:16:42 PM 402 Views

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