He is applying a double standard, a practice I dislike intensely.
Joel Send a noteboard - 16/01/2012 01:15:05 AM
and yes I am using two different screen names.
I haven't moved anywhere and if you are now aligneded with my views welcome to the majority. What worries me with stories like this is that some halfwit Americans will try and use it to score political points, you know sort of like what happened with Abu Ghraib. I guess we don't need to worry too much this time since Obama is in office most of the halfwits don't want to make the military look bad becuase it could reflect on the commander in chief. I wonder if the guys in Gitmo are pissed that he got elected and now nobody cares about the issue anymore.
I haven't moved anywhere and if you are now aligneded with my views welcome to the majority. What worries me with stories like this is that some halfwit Americans will try and use it to score political points, you know sort of like what happened with Abu Ghraib. I guess we don't need to worry too much this time since Obama is in office most of the halfwits don't want to make the military look bad becuase it could reflect on the commander in chief. I wonder if the guys in Gitmo are pissed that he got elected and now nobody cares about the issue anymore.
If they are not, they should be. Just another of many broken Obama promises he would be different from Bush.
I think instead of making this a political partisanship issue, it might make a lot more sense to view it as a former Marine being disappointed in the behavior of other Marines, as it goes against the code of conduct. Sometimes, you just take political differences too far and project them into areas where you shouldn't.
In this case, his position is absolutely correct, but back when we had a written policy of humiliating and even torturing LIVE prisoners it was somehow unpatriotic to insist "we are supposed to be better than this." What changed, apart from the administration? That is not partisanship on MY part; when rt slammed Obama for breaking his promise to close Gitmo I agreed 100%. I simply object to giving equal or worse behavior a free pass prior to 20 January, 2009. I think we were ALWAYS supposed to be better than this, and still should, which is what I have consistently said.
I am glad rt finally "gets it" and hope he remembers it REGARDLESS of who is in the White House (though there is a difference between true rogue elements and a written DoD policy approved by the US Attorney General.)
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Am I the only one who doesn't care if the Marines piss on the corpses of Taliban?
- 13/01/2012 03:28:08 PM
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Probably not the only one.
- 13/01/2012 03:51:18 PM
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Actually, IIRC, we were told the Afghanistan war was important because of the Talibans threat to us.
- 14/01/2012 11:18:28 PM
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Yes, that was part of it. Of course. AND we were going to help bring democracy.
- 15/01/2012 12:42:57 AM
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If we have time, sure. 
- 15/01/2012 10:18:31 PM
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- 15/01/2012 10:18:31 PM
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ooookay. *NM*
- 16/01/2012 12:12:06 AM
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?
- 16/01/2012 01:17:37 AM
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Re: ?
- 16/01/2012 12:22:39 PM
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I quite agree with Joel on this point (frightening as that admission may be).
- 16/01/2012 02:01:05 PM
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Doesn't matter.
- 16/01/2012 02:33:53 PM
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Your definition of "terrible thing" seems quite elastic.
- 16/01/2012 07:21:12 PM
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It undermines one of our stated goals, sure, but that particular goal was bunk from the outset.
- 17/01/2012 06:50:11 AM
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I am pissed at them
- 13/01/2012 06:00:56 PM
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Congratulations: You are now where a LOT of Americans have been on a LOT of US policy over the years
- 14/01/2012 07:43:24 AM
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Congratulations you have again missed the point
- 14/01/2012 05:06:24 PM
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Not at all, you have just evidently decided it is relevant now that the President is a Democrat.
- 14/01/2012 11:04:17 PM
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Joel, you're full of shit in this particular case
- 16/01/2012 12:05:54 AM
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Let's edit slightly: Joel, you're full of shit in this particular case
- 16/01/2012 12:57:22 AM
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He is applying a double standard, a practice I dislike intensely.
- 16/01/2012 01:15:05 AM
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no Joel you just can't see passed your politics
- 16/01/2012 02:15:51 AM
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I recall your disappointment in the soldiers then, but also your rejection of the view you took here
- 16/01/2012 02:27:36 AM
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I don't think that urinating on a dead body reflects well on anyone.
- 13/01/2012 07:47:20 PM
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Its indicitive of a breakdown in discipline and the erosion of the values of the corps.
- 13/01/2012 09:57:15 PM
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I thought this WAS the issue at hand. I haven't paid much attention to this story. *NM*
- 14/01/2012 12:00:53 AM
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I have a strong feeling that this was not the worst that's been done to those bodies
- 13/01/2012 10:43:34 PM
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Apparently the Taliban aren't too put out by it. They're still willing to negotiate and talk.
- 14/01/2012 01:32:59 AM
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Professional soldiers need to consider the impact of their actions on the cause
- 14/01/2012 08:25:30 AM
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Awful. Worst post ever. *NM*
- 14/01/2012 05:12:41 PM
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That's absurdly stupid of both of you. Expression of legitimate opinion hardly qualifies as "worst"
- 14/01/2012 08:46:30 PM
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it is our OPINION that this is the worst post ever.
- 14/01/2012 11:32:49 PM
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Wow. Remind me to point this out the next time Dragonsoul attacks you.
- 15/01/2012 02:52:47 AM
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im a little surprised that you are this offended by us calling your post the worst ever. *NM*
- 15/01/2012 03:52:51 AM
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Given the shit I've seen and the miserable way you've expressed yourself, I'm surprised.
- 15/01/2012 04:42:41 PM
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I agree worst post ever is one hell of a high bar
- 15/01/2012 03:52:42 AM
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Seriously, I once posted nude pics of a chat admins wife and THIS is the worst post ever? *NM*
- 15/01/2012 05:28:32 AM
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Personally, I expected a little more nuance from you.
- 15/01/2012 03:52:24 PM
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Well, and I would have expected a lot more nuance from you. Your response was worthless.
- 15/01/2012 04:40:57 PM
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moral?
- 14/01/2012 09:53:01 PM
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I agree it was stupid to record it, and a breach of policy.
- 14/01/2012 11:05:49 PM
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im just baffled
- 14/01/2012 11:36:32 PM
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Well, in the future you can expect it.
- 15/01/2012 02:54:59 AM
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nobody said you had to cry about it....just acknowledge its a fucked up thing to do
- 15/01/2012 03:38:29 AM
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This shows that you are a bit of a sociopath *NM*
- 15/01/2012 08:08:39 AM
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You're still upset I called American girls prudes.
- 15/01/2012 04:43:31 PM
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I had forgotten you called American girls prudes
- 16/01/2012 10:22:50 AM
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You're right, I'm not really bothered.
- 16/01/2012 09:18:50 PM
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There are all kinds of rationalizations why peeing on dead bodies isn't that bad in the grand
- 17/01/2012 10:32:45 PM
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What is it about this post that is bringing the mediocre intellectuals out of the woodwork? *NM*
- 17/01/2012 03:18:29 AM
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as someone said on the radio recently...
- 16/01/2012 08:41:25 PM
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They aren't conditioned to murder, much less "in cold blood"
- 16/01/2012 09:15:54 PM
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