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Actually, IIRC, we were told the Afghanistan war was important because of the Talibans threat to us. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/01/2012 11:18:28 PM
But I do. We have absolutely no business going over there to be some kind of "guiding light" saviormobile if we're going to do things to these people that we would drop bombs on someone's ass for doing to us. I suppose one could claim that we're there primarily to kill future threats to our country, but that certainly isn't the only reason we gave when we said this was an important war. And any one person there who might have helped us because he/she disagreed with a brother or uncle for aiding the Taliban might feel differently after they find out that that brother was killed and then pissed on by an American. They are people.

I understand the anger from the soldiers, but good lord. Fucking idiots.

That granted it the legitimacy Bush scrambled around unsuccessfully seeking for the Iraq war. There are a lot of hell holes around the world where religious and/or military juntas brutally oppress their helpless citizens and we do not get involved because 1) it is not our problem, 2) we do not have the resources and 3) unfortunately, in many cases we already subsidize the OPPRESSORS.

Afghanistan was different because the Taliban knowingly gave terrorists a safe haven where they plotted and trained to blow up the WTC. Thus we invaded as much to prevent it happening again as to retaliate. Liberation, spreading democracy, winning the hearts and minds; all great if they happen, but never our motive.

I agree the behavior was disgraceful, and undermines any kind of "enlightened" image we seek to project, along with any conciliatory impulse from the Taliban and probably most Afghanis, but in terms of our stated mission: We were there to put down or at least muzzle a rabid dog, which we largely have.
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Am I the only one who doesn't care if the Marines piss on the corpses of Taliban? - 13/01/2012 03:28:08 PM 1889 Views
Eh, it makes our guys look like uncivilized barbarian hicks. - 13/01/2012 03:37:24 PM 1081 Views
They're not? *NM* - 17/01/2012 09:52:28 AM 543 Views
Probably not the only one. - 13/01/2012 03:51:18 PM 1216 Views
I agree. *NM* - 13/01/2012 08:11:57 PM 530 Views
Well said. *NM* - 13/01/2012 10:52:26 PM 495 Views
Excellent post. - 14/01/2012 04:23:32 PM 913 Views
well said indeed. *NM* - 14/01/2012 06:30:21 PM 544 Views
Actually, IIRC, we were told the Afghanistan war was important because of the Talibans threat to us. - 14/01/2012 11:18:28 PM 923 Views
Yes, that was part of it. Of course. AND we were going to help bring democracy. - 15/01/2012 12:42:57 AM 921 Views
If we have time, sure. - 15/01/2012 10:18:31 PM 1063 Views
ooookay. *NM* - 16/01/2012 12:12:06 AM 498 Views
? - 16/01/2012 01:17:37 AM 968 Views
Re: ? - 16/01/2012 12:22:39 PM 950 Views
I quite agree with Joel on this point (frightening as that admission may be). - 16/01/2012 02:01:05 PM 939 Views
Doesn't matter. - 16/01/2012 02:33:53 PM 960 Views
Your definition of "terrible thing" seems quite elastic. - 16/01/2012 07:21:12 PM 863 Views
I knew I had a good reason to hate you! - 16/01/2012 09:14:47 PM 989 Views
It took this post for you to realize that? - 16/01/2012 09:17:00 PM 913 Views
I am pissed at them - 13/01/2012 06:00:56 PM 1216 Views
Yup. *NM* - 13/01/2012 06:07:10 PM 555 Views
Nope, you aren't. - 13/01/2012 07:08:06 PM 870 Views
I have a strong feeling that this was not the worst that's been done to those bodies - 13/01/2012 10:43:34 PM 1016 Views
any army simply reflects the society it is created from - 13/01/2012 11:06:57 PM 1070 Views
Agreed - 14/01/2012 12:37:45 AM 931 Views
You're far from the only one, but I don't agree with it. - 14/01/2012 12:17:31 AM 1022 Views
Awful. Worst post ever. *NM* - 14/01/2012 05:12:41 PM 728 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 14/01/2012 06:28:25 PM 488 Views
moral? - 14/01/2012 09:53:01 PM 1022 Views
I agree it was stupid to record it, and a breach of policy. - 14/01/2012 11:05:49 PM 903 Views
im just baffled - 14/01/2012 11:36:32 PM 969 Views
Well, in the future you can expect it. - 15/01/2012 02:54:59 AM 883 Views
This shows that you are a bit of a sociopath *NM* - 15/01/2012 08:08:39 AM 508 Views
But we knew that already. *NM* - 15/01/2012 11:18:02 AM 491 Views
You're still upset I called American girls prudes. - 15/01/2012 04:43:31 PM 838 Views
I had forgotten you called American girls prudes - 16/01/2012 10:22:50 AM 944 Views
as someone said on the radio recently... - 16/01/2012 08:41:25 PM 926 Views
They aren't conditioned to murder, much less "in cold blood" - 16/01/2012 09:15:54 PM 1029 Views
surprisingly there really is no conditioning to kill - 16/01/2012 09:33:51 PM 914 Views
You used the phrase enemy combatant... - 17/01/2012 10:34:41 PM 917 Views
they are a problematic enemy - 17/01/2012 11:41:11 PM 1298 Views
stop listening to idiots on the radio *NM* - 16/01/2012 09:16:42 PM 461 Views

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