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while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. ranagrande Send a noteboard - 10/01/2012 02:21:46 PM
For every idea of his that is acceptable or even attractive to any particular group in American politics, he has two that said group would find absolutely unacceptable. He doesn't want to become president bad enough to abandon his principles, which of course is one of the things so many people admire about his candidacy - but it also means he's not actually a candidate to be President. He just wants to promote his ideas, and he certainly has a lot more influence this way than he'd have through his House seat alone.

Why would that mean he's not actually a candidate? He would have vastly greater influence still to promote his ideas as President.

So to sum up, it's not gonna happen, and you wouldn't like it if it did (although Paul becoming president would definitely be one of the most exciting political experiments in recent history: how much would he actually change, and what would the consequences be? It's just only a madman would want to volunteer his country for said experiment.)

It could happen. After Iowa, there's a three-way tie for first place between Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, and Ron Paul. With very few votes counted so far in New Hampshire, Paul is a close second to Romney there too.

If by some miracle Ron Paul does get the republican nomination, I think he goes on to become President. (For the record, if by an even greater miracle Jon Huntsman were to be the republican nominee, the general election will be a contest too close for me to call. If it's anyone else: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum, or Romney, than Barack Obama will serve a second term.)

And if it did happen, then yes, I think I would like it very much. I don't completely agree with Ron Paul on everything, but he comes much, much closer than any other candidate in any other party. Unlike with most candidates, and unlike our current President, chances are good that Paul will actually do, or at least try to do, what he says he will. He has a long congressional record to use as evidence: in all his time in the House, he has never voted to raise taxes and he has never voted to go to war.

As you say, it would be exciting to see how many of his ideas he could actually implement, how people would respond to them, and what the results ultimately were. I shall gladly volunteer my country for this experiment, and I'm not a madman. In fact, the last time I took psychiatric exam, the doctor said I was one of the "most classically normal" people he'd seen. Anyway, Paul's theories are sound and any changes he is able to make are sure to be improvements. He certainly couldn't be any worse than Bush or Obama.
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Santorum is #2 in Iowa Larry - 04/01/2012 01:24:13 PM 1736 Views
would you stop using that word? It is gross. *NM* jh - 04/01/2012 01:48:45 PM 565 Views
What's your word for it? *NM* beetnemesis - 04/01/2012 03:43:44 PM 521 Views
Rövsmör. *NM* jh - 04/01/2012 09:50:21 PM 517 Views
Den var ny för mig. Lews_TherinThelamon - 06/01/2012 12:12:07 AM 670 Views
Well, there's nothing wrong with Santoruming in the privacy of one's home. Tom - 04/01/2012 02:35:56 PM 1054 Views
yeah that it so funny random thoughts - 04/01/2012 03:05:59 PM 923 Views
he kind of brought it on himself by being so decidedly anti-gay that it pissed lots of people off moondog - 04/01/2012 04:36:39 PM 966 Views
maybe the gays brought all the gay bashing on themselves random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:18:15 PM 1160 Views
Civility is a social contract Roland00 - 05/01/2012 04:39:46 PM 929 Views
so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game? random thoughts - 05/01/2012 06:37:52 PM 680 Views
Question have you read the Santorum interview? *NM* Roland00 - 05/01/2012 06:50:24 PM 483 Views
no I try to avoid him random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:17:45 PM 786 Views
Re: so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game? Bored - 06/01/2012 05:29:49 PM 938 Views
So is it OK if just insult the gays who are politically active and push their agenda? random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:16:30 PM 966 Views
If you call them out by name for hypocrisy, then sure. Bored - 10/01/2012 05:22:34 PM 989 Views
yes but once you have thrown out all civil decency why start getting nuanced? Ray - 11/01/2012 09:09:13 PM 906 Views
That's too harsh. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:29:05 PM 901 Views
While language changes with time Roland00 - 07/01/2012 04:13:28 AM 918 Views
I have to agree. Reluctantly. Legolas - 04/01/2012 06:19:13 PM 970 Views
Actually, your response was expected Larry - 04/01/2012 10:08:33 PM 1020 Views
don't forget.... moondog - 05/01/2012 02:27:49 AM 913 Views
do you still pretend that it isn't political? random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:14:25 PM 855 Views
I'm sorry Larry - 05/01/2012 03:52:57 PM 961 Views
funny how it always woks out that way random thoughts - 05/01/2012 06:44:55 PM 765 Views
Believe what you will, but my wok skills are poor Larry - 05/01/2012 07:32:17 PM 926 Views
You should ask one of the gays to help you. I hear the gays are good at cooking. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/01/2012 01:54:21 AM 610 Views
Queer stove eye for the straight guy? Larry - 06/01/2012 09:05:48 PM 833 Views
try using more heat and better oil *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:18:19 PM 497 Views
Corn oil? Larry - 06/01/2012 09:05:09 PM 787 Views
Peanut *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 11:27:49 PM 527 Views
Santorum is a man who believes you must compare homosexual love to bestiality and pedophilia Roland00 - 05/01/2012 04:42:26 AM 932 Views
and Savage is a Man who believes that vulgar personal attacks random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:12:42 PM 1079 Views
Why should a person tolerate intolerance? (Serious question.) *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 05/01/2012 08:46:05 PM 642 Views
The question boils down to why should someone tolerate what they think is wrong. Narg - 05/01/2012 10:53:40 PM 897 Views
and when santorum tells you that your lifestyle is worse than pedophilia and bestiality? moondog - 06/01/2012 03:34:52 AM 851 Views
To be fair... Narg - 06/01/2012 05:32:31 AM 995 Views
You are correct Roland00 - 06/01/2012 01:21:18 PM 1049 Views
Then it seems like it's a problem of definitions more than anything else. Vivien - 06/01/2012 09:48:49 PM 956 Views
Following the logic to its bitter end. Why do I do this to myself??? Vivien - 06/01/2012 10:14:01 PM 1017 Views
Santourm is Roland00 - 07/01/2012 04:24:45 AM 971 Views
I'm fairly sure your theory is wrong. Legolas - 06/01/2012 10:42:14 PM 1023 Views
so Obama offended me by attending a racist America hating church random thoughts - 06/01/2012 05:32:14 PM 873 Views
Those are really not equivalent. Vivien - 06/01/2012 04:18:37 PM 812 Views
Re: Those are really not equivalent. Narg - 06/01/2012 10:27:11 PM 943 Views
I don't like your definition of tolerance and you're not consistent with it anyway. Vivien - 07/01/2012 01:49:05 AM 978 Views
In case you were curious, I really disagree with your understanding of tolerance. *NM* Vivien - 09/01/2012 08:24:45 PM 597 Views
But being the tolerant person that you are... Narg - 09/01/2012 09:01:10 PM 863 Views
This. Joel - 07/01/2012 01:35:43 PM 833 Views
I agree, lets shoot anyone who doesn't think like you *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 05:17:41 PM 496 Views
I'm really conflicted about the whole Santorum thing. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:42:02 PM 893 Views
I find myself agreeing with you recently random thoughts - 06/01/2012 08:38:37 PM 930 Views
dude, gross! *NM* temeraire - 04/01/2012 04:39:34 PM 504 Views
Dear Iowa, Wulf`gar - 04/01/2012 08:04:09 PM 931 Views
So at this point, most of the candidates had a moment at the top. Kind of awesome. Vivien - 05/01/2012 11:22:50 PM 920 Views
that is why Perry is staying in the race random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:20:54 PM 890 Views
He should stay, they should all stay. Trump should get back into it and Palin should jump in too. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:00:52 PM 830 Views
It would be the joke of the year if Huntsman got a turn. Legolas - 06/01/2012 10:59:36 PM 843 Views
Is he a bigger long shot than Santorum, though? Gingrich? Bachman? CAIN!? Vivien - 07/01/2012 01:34:47 AM 942 Views
Yes, for the reason you state. Joel - 07/01/2012 03:04:39 PM 902 Views
I really do not agree. Vivien - 09/01/2012 08:51:46 PM 931 Views
Like I said, check Obamas numbers any time in the last year and a half. Joel - 10/01/2012 11:41:47 AM 812 Views
he is moving up in New Hampshire random thoughts - 10/01/2012 05:16:14 PM 1022 Views
More like everyone has had a moment running second to Romney. Joel - 07/01/2012 01:59:25 PM 826 Views
It's not a foregone conclusion yet. ranagrande - 07/01/2012 04:03:51 PM 940 Views
It kinda is; Paul cannot even win a majority of Republicans, let alone the country. Joel - 07/01/2012 09:09:07 PM 916 Views
Ironically, Paul has a better chance of winning the general election than the republican primary. ranagrande - 07/01/2012 10:14:07 PM 1002 Views
What's the likelihood of Paul running as an independent/3rd party if he doesn't get the GOP nod? *NM* Stephen - 07/01/2012 10:21:23 PM 343 Views
Not very high, I think. He didn't try it last time either, and it would hand Obama the election. *NM* Legolas - 08/01/2012 01:29:01 AM 461 Views
He will threaten to do it, but not actually do it Roland00 - 08/01/2012 04:14:55 AM 1004 Views
many states have laws that you cannot run 3rd party after being on the ballot for a party primary moondog - 08/01/2012 06:12:36 AM 1039 Views
0 *NM* random thoughts - 09/01/2012 02:57:50 PM 448 Views
Yes, he and Romney have that in common, but Pauls positions are (mostly) sincere. Joel - 10/01/2012 03:46:04 PM 1016 Views
give up the hope it is nothing more than a pipe dream random thoughts - 09/01/2012 02:57:03 PM 947 Views
All of the republican candidates are pipe dreams. ranagrande - 09/01/2012 08:56:57 PM 751 Views
I find Ron Paul absolutely infuriating. Vivien - 09/01/2012 10:44:09 PM 1017 Views
Weed is kinda important Roland00 - 10/01/2012 03:31:00 PM 791 Views
So is women's health. About 50% of US. *NM* Vivien - 13/01/2012 01:46:15 AM 548 Views
Um... Joel - 10/01/2012 03:54:53 PM 848 Views
is an ass Roland00 - 10/01/2012 05:10:09 PM 985 Views
I would like to see that enforced. Joel - 10/01/2012 05:39:22 PM 1323 Views
So segregation when done by private businesses is ok? Vivien - 11/01/2012 02:20:32 PM 1027 Views
Define "OK." Joel - 11/01/2012 08:29:09 PM 908 Views
Paul is an equal opportunity infuriator, to borrow Vivien's word. Legolas - 09/01/2012 10:56:57 PM 913 Views
I agree with you completely. nossy - 10/01/2012 12:06:19 PM 933 Views
while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. ranagrande - 10/01/2012 02:21:46 PM 1364 Views
Re: while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. Legolas - 10/01/2012 07:38:39 PM 925 Views
Ron Paul's biggest problem is isn't a republican random thoughts - 10/01/2012 04:18:16 PM 933 Views
The original santorum 2003 interview for those who want to know Roland00 - 07/01/2012 05:32:00 AM 1127 Views
And here is the 2002 op ed where he blamed liberalism causing the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal Roland00 - 07/01/2012 05:36:39 AM 941 Views
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