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Yes, for the reason you state. Joel Send a noteboard - 07/01/2012 03:04:39 PM
Then again, people looking for an alternative to Romney are not going to consider Huntsman. They're too similar.

I don't care who wins the republican primary- I want the primary season to be drawn out, exciting, and very entertaining. Obama's going to win anyway, and the republican establishment knows it (especially after the Bin Laden kill). That's why it's a circus this year: no one with a serious chance is even trying.

Have you checked Obamas numbers recently? Like, in the last year and a half? He got a small bump for a week or so after the Bin Laden hit, then it went up in smoke over the near default. He got a bigger bump when the GOP decided to play chicken with the payroll tax holiday right before Christmas, but just because he managed to preserve that issue for another year (which was all that fight was ever about) does not mean he can ride it to victory.

The only thing Obama really has going for him is that the public hates the Tea Party House more than it hates him, but guess what: Mitt Romney has never been in Congress, and is stomping each of the Tea Party alternatives in turn. Gingrich (the only viable alternative) was not even felled by a scandal or highly public gaffe; Romney just money bombed IA until he could not hope to keep pace. He will keep outspending all challengers, because he can, and mouthing whatever people want to hear, like he has his whole career, until inevitably nominated. Unless Obama gets his act together we will all find out Romneys REAL beliefs after inauguration.

All I can say is "good luck;" the House can and will block any legislation he belatedly attempts, and Obama cannot smear Romney with that like he could Bachmann or Santorum. Meanwhile, Romney will stand aside, sadly shaking his head over the foolishness of DC insiders, and telling everyone how great he is with floundering economies. He will not mention it took tax hikes as governor of MA. He will not say he did it on Wall Street selling off companies whose stock he inflated by first selling their assets and firing their workers (after which they all went bankrupt because they no longer made anything, but Romney was long gone.) And when Obama tries to share those trivial details Romney will just shake his head sadly again at more of the divisive DC politics from which he is trying so hard to save America. *tear*

THAT is why there are no other serious GOP candidates: They know the party financiers and leaders picked the 2012 nominee in November of 2008.
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Santorum is #2 in Iowa Larry - 04/01/2012 01:24:13 PM 1737 Views
would you stop using that word? It is gross. *NM* jh - 04/01/2012 01:48:45 PM 566 Views
What's your word for it? *NM* beetnemesis - 04/01/2012 03:43:44 PM 522 Views
Rövsmör. *NM* jh - 04/01/2012 09:50:21 PM 518 Views
Den var ny för mig. Lews_TherinThelamon - 06/01/2012 12:12:07 AM 671 Views
Well, there's nothing wrong with Santoruming in the privacy of one's home. Tom - 04/01/2012 02:35:56 PM 1054 Views
yeah that it so funny random thoughts - 04/01/2012 03:05:59 PM 924 Views
he kind of brought it on himself by being so decidedly anti-gay that it pissed lots of people off moondog - 04/01/2012 04:36:39 PM 966 Views
maybe the gays brought all the gay bashing on themselves random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:18:15 PM 1161 Views
Civility is a social contract Roland00 - 05/01/2012 04:39:46 PM 929 Views
so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game? random thoughts - 05/01/2012 06:37:52 PM 680 Views
Question have you read the Santorum interview? *NM* Roland00 - 05/01/2012 06:50:24 PM 484 Views
no I try to avoid him random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:17:45 PM 787 Views
Re: so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game? Bored - 06/01/2012 05:29:49 PM 938 Views
So is it OK if just insult the gays who are politically active and push their agenda? random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:16:30 PM 967 Views
If you call them out by name for hypocrisy, then sure. Bored - 10/01/2012 05:22:34 PM 989 Views
yes but once you have thrown out all civil decency why start getting nuanced? Ray - 11/01/2012 09:09:13 PM 906 Views
That's too harsh. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:29:05 PM 901 Views
While language changes with time Roland00 - 07/01/2012 04:13:28 AM 919 Views
I have to agree. Reluctantly. Legolas - 04/01/2012 06:19:13 PM 970 Views
Actually, your response was expected Larry - 04/01/2012 10:08:33 PM 1020 Views
don't forget.... moondog - 05/01/2012 02:27:49 AM 913 Views
do you still pretend that it isn't political? random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:14:25 PM 856 Views
I'm sorry Larry - 05/01/2012 03:52:57 PM 961 Views
funny how it always woks out that way random thoughts - 05/01/2012 06:44:55 PM 766 Views
Believe what you will, but my wok skills are poor Larry - 05/01/2012 07:32:17 PM 926 Views
You should ask one of the gays to help you. I hear the gays are good at cooking. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/01/2012 01:54:21 AM 611 Views
Queer stove eye for the straight guy? Larry - 06/01/2012 09:05:48 PM 834 Views
try using more heat and better oil *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:18:19 PM 497 Views
Corn oil? Larry - 06/01/2012 09:05:09 PM 787 Views
Peanut *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 11:27:49 PM 528 Views
Santorum is a man who believes you must compare homosexual love to bestiality and pedophilia Roland00 - 05/01/2012 04:42:26 AM 933 Views
and Savage is a Man who believes that vulgar personal attacks random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:12:42 PM 1080 Views
Why should a person tolerate intolerance? (Serious question.) *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 05/01/2012 08:46:05 PM 642 Views
The question boils down to why should someone tolerate what they think is wrong. Narg - 05/01/2012 10:53:40 PM 898 Views
and when santorum tells you that your lifestyle is worse than pedophilia and bestiality? moondog - 06/01/2012 03:34:52 AM 852 Views
To be fair... Narg - 06/01/2012 05:32:31 AM 995 Views
You are correct Roland00 - 06/01/2012 01:21:18 PM 1049 Views
Then it seems like it's a problem of definitions more than anything else. Vivien - 06/01/2012 09:48:49 PM 957 Views
Following the logic to its bitter end. Why do I do this to myself??? Vivien - 06/01/2012 10:14:01 PM 1017 Views
Santourm is Roland00 - 07/01/2012 04:24:45 AM 971 Views
I'm fairly sure your theory is wrong. Legolas - 06/01/2012 10:42:14 PM 1023 Views
so Obama offended me by attending a racist America hating church random thoughts - 06/01/2012 05:32:14 PM 874 Views
Those are really not equivalent. Vivien - 06/01/2012 04:18:37 PM 812 Views
Re: Those are really not equivalent. Narg - 06/01/2012 10:27:11 PM 943 Views
I don't like your definition of tolerance and you're not consistent with it anyway. Vivien - 07/01/2012 01:49:05 AM 979 Views
In case you were curious, I really disagree with your understanding of tolerance. *NM* Vivien - 09/01/2012 08:24:45 PM 597 Views
But being the tolerant person that you are... Narg - 09/01/2012 09:01:10 PM 864 Views
This. Joel - 07/01/2012 01:35:43 PM 833 Views
I agree, lets shoot anyone who doesn't think like you *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 05:17:41 PM 497 Views
I'm really conflicted about the whole Santorum thing. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:42:02 PM 894 Views
I find myself agreeing with you recently random thoughts - 06/01/2012 08:38:37 PM 930 Views
dude, gross! *NM* temeraire - 04/01/2012 04:39:34 PM 505 Views
Dear Iowa, Wulf`gar - 04/01/2012 08:04:09 PM 931 Views
So at this point, most of the candidates had a moment at the top. Kind of awesome. Vivien - 05/01/2012 11:22:50 PM 920 Views
that is why Perry is staying in the race random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:20:54 PM 890 Views
He should stay, they should all stay. Trump should get back into it and Palin should jump in too. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:00:52 PM 830 Views
It would be the joke of the year if Huntsman got a turn. Legolas - 06/01/2012 10:59:36 PM 843 Views
Is he a bigger long shot than Santorum, though? Gingrich? Bachman? CAIN!? Vivien - 07/01/2012 01:34:47 AM 944 Views
Yes, for the reason you state. Joel - 07/01/2012 03:04:39 PM 903 Views
I really do not agree. Vivien - 09/01/2012 08:51:46 PM 931 Views
Like I said, check Obamas numbers any time in the last year and a half. Joel - 10/01/2012 11:41:47 AM 813 Views
he is moving up in New Hampshire random thoughts - 10/01/2012 05:16:14 PM 1022 Views
More like everyone has had a moment running second to Romney. Joel - 07/01/2012 01:59:25 PM 827 Views
It's not a foregone conclusion yet. ranagrande - 07/01/2012 04:03:51 PM 941 Views
It kinda is; Paul cannot even win a majority of Republicans, let alone the country. Joel - 07/01/2012 09:09:07 PM 916 Views
Ironically, Paul has a better chance of winning the general election than the republican primary. ranagrande - 07/01/2012 10:14:07 PM 1003 Views
What's the likelihood of Paul running as an independent/3rd party if he doesn't get the GOP nod? *NM* Stephen - 07/01/2012 10:21:23 PM 343 Views
Not very high, I think. He didn't try it last time either, and it would hand Obama the election. *NM* Legolas - 08/01/2012 01:29:01 AM 462 Views
He will threaten to do it, but not actually do it Roland00 - 08/01/2012 04:14:55 AM 1005 Views
many states have laws that you cannot run 3rd party after being on the ballot for a party primary moondog - 08/01/2012 06:12:36 AM 1039 Views
0 *NM* random thoughts - 09/01/2012 02:57:50 PM 448 Views
Yes, he and Romney have that in common, but Pauls positions are (mostly) sincere. Joel - 10/01/2012 03:46:04 PM 1016 Views
give up the hope it is nothing more than a pipe dream random thoughts - 09/01/2012 02:57:03 PM 948 Views
All of the republican candidates are pipe dreams. ranagrande - 09/01/2012 08:56:57 PM 751 Views
I find Ron Paul absolutely infuriating. Vivien - 09/01/2012 10:44:09 PM 1017 Views
Weed is kinda important Roland00 - 10/01/2012 03:31:00 PM 792 Views
So is women's health. About 50% of US. *NM* Vivien - 13/01/2012 01:46:15 AM 548 Views
Um... Joel - 10/01/2012 03:54:53 PM 849 Views
is an ass Roland00 - 10/01/2012 05:10:09 PM 985 Views
I would like to see that enforced. Joel - 10/01/2012 05:39:22 PM 1324 Views
So segregation when done by private businesses is ok? Vivien - 11/01/2012 02:20:32 PM 1027 Views
Define "OK." Joel - 11/01/2012 08:29:09 PM 908 Views
Paul is an equal opportunity infuriator, to borrow Vivien's word. Legolas - 09/01/2012 10:56:57 PM 913 Views
I agree with you completely. nossy - 10/01/2012 12:06:19 PM 934 Views
while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. ranagrande - 10/01/2012 02:21:46 PM 1364 Views
Re: while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. Legolas - 10/01/2012 07:38:39 PM 926 Views
Ron Paul's biggest problem is isn't a republican random thoughts - 10/01/2012 04:18:16 PM 933 Views
The original santorum 2003 interview for those who want to know Roland00 - 07/01/2012 05:32:00 AM 1127 Views
And here is the 2002 op ed where he blamed liberalism causing the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal Roland00 - 07/01/2012 05:36:39 AM 941 Views
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