Following the logic to its bitter end. Why do I do this to myself???
Vivien Send a noteboard - 06/01/2012 10:14:01 PM
Given that: Satorum believes homosexuality is horrible and rape of young boys is normal homosexual behavior rathen than abuse and rape:
The only possible logic that makes the above not gibberish is that Santorum isn't terribly concerned when women are raped but he does not like the idea of a boy or man being raped. Since rape of women is not a big deal, man rape absolutely has to go into a different category. He assumes that gay rape is done by gay men, so it's the gay that's the problem. No gay = no gay rape = no rape of men = we can go on more or less ignoring rape, rapists almost never get convicted, a woman who is not chaste cannot be raped, she asked for it, etc.
Not sure if I'm expressing it right but it's making sense in my head.
If Santorum had instead said that an adult man in a position of authority having sex with a minor is horrible, and akin to bestiality no one would blink. Maybe in his head he can't distinguish between pedophilia and homosexuality? If the two are confused in his brain- if he thinks a normal homosexual is one that will rape a child then the vitriol makes sense. Every conversation should start with precise definitions of what people are talking about.
The only possible logic that makes the above not gibberish is that Santorum isn't terribly concerned when women are raped but he does not like the idea of a boy or man being raped. Since rape of women is not a big deal, man rape absolutely has to go into a different category. He assumes that gay rape is done by gay men, so it's the gay that's the problem. No gay = no gay rape = no rape of men = we can go on more or less ignoring rape, rapists almost never get convicted, a woman who is not chaste cannot be raped, she asked for it, etc.
Not sure if I'm expressing it right but it's making sense in my head.
Santorum feels the need to compare homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia. Whenever he hears the word homosexuality or gay he must go at length on how has society fallen.
In those same sentences he says only thing worse is bestiality and pedophilia. He has also commented at the past that priests raping teenage boys (that are between ages 12 to 1 is normal homosexuality and not abuse/rape.
In those same sentences he says only thing worse is bestiality and pedophilia. He has also commented at the past that priests raping teenage boys (that are between ages 12 to 1 is normal homosexuality and not abuse/rape.
If Santorum had instead said that an adult man in a position of authority having sex with a minor is horrible, and akin to bestiality no one would blink. Maybe in his head he can't distinguish between pedophilia and homosexuality? If the two are confused in his brain- if he thinks a normal homosexual is one that will rape a child then the vitriol makes sense. Every conversation should start with precise definitions of what people are talking about.
Santorum is #2 in Iowa
04/01/2012 01:24:13 PM
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would you stop using that word? It is gross. *NM*
04/01/2012 01:48:45 PM
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What's your word for it? *NM*
04/01/2012 03:43:44 PM
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Well, there's nothing wrong with Santoruming in the privacy of one's home.
04/01/2012 02:35:56 PM
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yeah that it so funny
04/01/2012 03:05:59 PM
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he kind of brought it on himself by being so decidedly anti-gay that it pissed lots of people off
04/01/2012 04:36:39 PM
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maybe the gays brought all the gay bashing on themselves
05/01/2012 03:18:15 PM
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Civility is a social contract
05/01/2012 04:39:46 PM
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so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game?
05/01/2012 06:37:52 PM
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Re: so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game?
06/01/2012 05:29:49 PM
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So is it OK if just insult the gays who are politically active and push their agenda?
06/01/2012 06:16:30 PM
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If you call them out by name for hypocrisy, then sure.
10/01/2012 05:22:34 PM
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yes but once you have thrown out all civil decency why start getting nuanced?
11/01/2012 09:09:13 PM
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Actually, your response was expected
04/01/2012 10:08:33 PM
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do you still pretend that it isn't political?
05/01/2012 03:14:25 PM
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I'm sorry
05/01/2012 03:52:57 PM
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funny how it always woks out that way
05/01/2012 06:44:55 PM
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Believe what you will, but my wok skills are poor
05/01/2012 07:32:17 PM
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You should ask one of the gays to help you. I hear the gays are good at cooking. *NM*
06/01/2012 01:54:21 AM
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Santorum is a man who believes you must compare homosexual love to bestiality and pedophilia
05/01/2012 04:42:26 AM
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and Savage is a Man who believes that vulgar personal attacks
05/01/2012 03:12:42 PM
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Why should a person tolerate intolerance? (Serious question.) *NM*
05/01/2012 08:46:05 PM
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The question boils down to why should someone tolerate what they think is wrong.
05/01/2012 10:53:40 PM
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and when santorum tells you that your lifestyle is worse than pedophilia and bestiality?
06/01/2012 03:34:52 AM
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To be fair...
06/01/2012 05:32:31 AM
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You are correct
06/01/2012 01:21:18 PM
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Then it seems like it's a problem of definitions more than anything else.
06/01/2012 09:48:49 PM
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Following the logic to its bitter end. Why do I do this to myself???
06/01/2012 10:14:01 PM
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Those are really not equivalent.
06/01/2012 04:18:37 PM
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Re: Those are really not equivalent.
06/01/2012 10:27:11 PM
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I don't like your definition of tolerance and you're not consistent with it anyway.
07/01/2012 01:49:05 AM
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In case you were curious, I really disagree with your understanding of tolerance. *NM*
09/01/2012 08:24:45 PM
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So at this point, most of the candidates had a moment at the top. Kind of awesome.
05/01/2012 11:22:50 PM
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that is why Perry is staying in the race
06/01/2012 06:20:54 PM
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He should stay, they should all stay. Trump should get back into it and Palin should jump in too.
06/01/2012 07:00:52 PM
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It would be the joke of the year if Huntsman got a turn.
06/01/2012 10:59:36 PM
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Is he a bigger long shot than Santorum, though? Gingrich? Bachman? CAIN!?
07/01/2012 01:34:47 AM
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Yes, for the reason you state.
07/01/2012 03:04:39 PM
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I really do not agree.
09/01/2012 08:51:46 PM
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Like I said, check Obamas numbers any time in the last year and a half.
10/01/2012 11:41:47 AM
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More like everyone has had a moment running second to Romney.
07/01/2012 01:59:25 PM
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It's not a foregone conclusion yet.
07/01/2012 04:03:51 PM
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It kinda is; Paul cannot even win a majority of Republicans, let alone the country.
07/01/2012 09:09:07 PM
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Ironically, Paul has a better chance of winning the general election than the republican primary.
07/01/2012 10:14:07 PM
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What's the likelihood of Paul running as an independent/3rd party if he doesn't get the GOP nod? *NM*
07/01/2012 10:21:23 PM
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Not very high, I think. He didn't try it last time either, and it would hand Obama the election. *NM*
08/01/2012 01:29:01 AM
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many states have laws that you cannot run 3rd party after being on the ballot for a party primary
08/01/2012 06:12:36 AM
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Yes, he and Romney have that in common, but Pauls positions are (mostly) sincere.
10/01/2012 03:46:04 PM
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give up the hope it is nothing more than a pipe dream
09/01/2012 02:57:03 PM
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All of the republican candidates are pipe dreams.
09/01/2012 08:56:57 PM
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I find Ron Paul absolutely infuriating.
09/01/2012 10:44:09 PM
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Um...
10/01/2012 03:54:53 PM
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Paul is an equal opportunity infuriator, to borrow Vivien's word.
09/01/2012 10:56:57 PM
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The original santorum 2003 interview for those who want to know
07/01/2012 05:32:00 AM
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And here is the 2002 op ed where he blamed liberalism causing the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal
07/01/2012 05:36:39 AM
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