The equivalence to homosexuality tolerance and acceptance is tolerance and acceptance of heterosexuality, not tolerance and acceptance of homophobia.
Seeing it differently is perfectly ok- what's not ok is if someone's "seeing it differently" means taking choice/agency/freedom from other people. It's ok to be personally not into gay sex or birth control but it's a problem if you seek to also tell others what they can and cannot do. However, they are totally free to be homophobic in the privacy of their own homes.
For example, when we were watching the show where everyone stopped dying and they were scenes of 2 men, my dad would fast forward through them. [And I actually sat through the first episode of Spartacus with both my parents because we did not know what we were in for but somehow there was no fast forwarding there]
Seeing it differently is perfectly ok- what's not ok is if someone's "seeing it differently" means taking choice/agency/freedom from other people. It's ok to be personally not into gay sex or birth control but it's a problem if you seek to also tell others what they can and cannot do. However, they are totally free to be homophobic in the privacy of their own homes.
For example, when we were watching the show where everyone stopped dying and they were scenes of 2 men, my dad would fast forward through them. [And I actually sat through the first episode of Spartacus with both my parents because we did not know what we were in for but somehow there was no fast forwarding there]
One group thinks homosexual behavior is wrong. Another group thinks it is wrong to think homosexual behavior is wrong. One group claims to be the tolerant group, but it is hardly tolerance to embrace what you think is perfectly acceptable while villifying those who think differently.
I think a better definition of tolerance is living at peace with what you find objectionable. There are tolerant people on both sides of the argument, though far fewer than would tag themselves so. The trick is to rise above the desire to villify those who honestly see it differently than you.
That is why we come up with labels like pro-choice and pro-life, to give the implication that the other side is anti-life or anti-choice. Why do you like seeing babies die? Why do you like rippping agency from women? Those who see it differently than you are patently evil. The oldest trick in the political/religous/sports/social/anything book is to dehumanize those who oppose you so that you can unleash all of your vitriol and frustration against them without restraint. Afterall, why should you show restraint when the otherside has willfully and knowingly chosen to work for Satan?
I think a better definition of tolerance is living at peace with what you find objectionable. There are tolerant people on both sides of the argument, though far fewer than would tag themselves so. The trick is to rise above the desire to villify those who honestly see it differently than you.
That is why we come up with labels like pro-choice and pro-life, to give the implication that the other side is anti-life or anti-choice. Why do you like seeing babies die? Why do you like rippping agency from women? Those who see it differently than you are patently evil. The oldest trick in the political/religous/sports/social/anything book is to dehumanize those who oppose you so that you can unleash all of your vitriol and frustration against them without restraint. Afterall, why should you show restraint when the otherside has willfully and knowingly chosen to work for Satan?
Santorum is #2 in Iowa
- 04/01/2012 01:24:13 PM
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would you stop using that word? It is gross. *NM*
- 04/01/2012 01:48:45 PM
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What's your word for it? *NM*
- 04/01/2012 03:43:44 PM
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Well, there's nothing wrong with Santoruming in the privacy of one's home.
- 04/01/2012 02:35:56 PM
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yeah that it so funny
- 04/01/2012 03:05:59 PM
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he kind of brought it on himself by being so decidedly anti-gay that it pissed lots of people off
- 04/01/2012 04:36:39 PM
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maybe the gays brought all the gay bashing on themselves
- 05/01/2012 03:18:15 PM
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Civility is a social contract
- 05/01/2012 04:39:46 PM
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so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game?
- 05/01/2012 06:37:52 PM
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Re: so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game?
- 06/01/2012 05:29:49 PM
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So is it OK if just insult the gays who are politically active and push their agenda?
- 06/01/2012 06:16:30 PM
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If you call them out by name for hypocrisy, then sure.
- 10/01/2012 05:22:34 PM
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yes but once you have thrown out all civil decency why start getting nuanced?
- 11/01/2012 09:09:13 PM
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Actually, your response was expected
- 04/01/2012 10:08:33 PM
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do you still pretend that it isn't political?
- 05/01/2012 03:14:25 PM
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I'm sorry
- 05/01/2012 03:52:57 PM
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funny how it always woks out that way
- 05/01/2012 06:44:55 PM
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Believe what you will, but my wok skills are poor 
- 05/01/2012 07:32:17 PM
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- 05/01/2012 07:32:17 PM
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You should ask one of the gays to help you. I hear the gays are good at cooking. *NM*
- 06/01/2012 01:54:21 AM
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Santorum is a man who believes you must compare homosexual love to bestiality and pedophilia
- 05/01/2012 04:42:26 AM
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and Savage is a Man who believes that vulgar personal attacks
- 05/01/2012 03:12:42 PM
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Why should a person tolerate intolerance? (Serious question.) *NM*
- 05/01/2012 08:46:05 PM
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The question boils down to why should someone tolerate what they think is wrong.
- 05/01/2012 10:53:40 PM
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and when santorum tells you that your lifestyle is worse than pedophilia and bestiality?
- 06/01/2012 03:34:52 AM
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To be fair...
- 06/01/2012 05:32:31 AM
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You are correct
- 06/01/2012 01:21:18 PM
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Then it seems like it's a problem of definitions more than anything else.
- 06/01/2012 09:48:49 PM
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Following the logic to its bitter end. Why do I do this to myself???
- 06/01/2012 10:14:01 PM
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Following the logic to its bitter end. Why do I do this to myself???
- 06/01/2012 10:14:01 PM
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Those are really not equivalent.
- 06/01/2012 04:18:37 PM
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Re: Those are really not equivalent.
- 06/01/2012 10:27:11 PM
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I don't like your definition of tolerance and you're not consistent with it anyway.
- 07/01/2012 01:49:05 AM
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In case you were curious, I really disagree with your understanding of tolerance. *NM*
- 09/01/2012 08:24:45 PM
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I find myself agreeing with you recently
So at this point, most of the candidates had a moment at the top. Kind of awesome.
- 05/01/2012 11:22:50 PM
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that is why Perry is staying in the race
- 06/01/2012 06:20:54 PM
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He should stay, they should all stay. Trump should get back into it and Palin should jump in too.
- 06/01/2012 07:00:52 PM
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It would be the joke of the year if Huntsman got a turn.
- 06/01/2012 10:59:36 PM
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Is he a bigger long shot than Santorum, though? Gingrich? Bachman? CAIN!?
- 07/01/2012 01:34:47 AM
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Yes, for the reason you state.
- 07/01/2012 03:04:39 PM
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I really do not agree.
- 09/01/2012 08:51:46 PM
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Like I said, check Obamas numbers any time in the last year and a half.
- 10/01/2012 11:41:47 AM
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More like everyone has had a moment running second to Romney.
- 07/01/2012 01:59:25 PM
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It's not a foregone conclusion yet.
- 07/01/2012 04:03:51 PM
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It kinda is; Paul cannot even win a majority of Republicans, let alone the country.
- 07/01/2012 09:09:07 PM
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Ironically, Paul has a better chance of winning the general election than the republican primary.
- 07/01/2012 10:14:07 PM
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What's the likelihood of Paul running as an independent/3rd party if he doesn't get the GOP nod? *NM*
- 07/01/2012 10:21:23 PM
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Not very high, I think. He didn't try it last time either, and it would hand Obama the election. *NM*
- 08/01/2012 01:29:01 AM
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many states have laws that you cannot run 3rd party after being on the ballot for a party primary
- 08/01/2012 06:12:36 AM
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Yes, he and Romney have that in common, but Pauls positions are (mostly) sincere.
- 10/01/2012 03:46:04 PM
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give up the hope it is nothing more than a pipe dream
- 09/01/2012 02:57:03 PM
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All of the republican candidates are pipe dreams.
- 09/01/2012 08:56:57 PM
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I find Ron Paul absolutely infuriating.
- 09/01/2012 10:44:09 PM
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Um...
- 10/01/2012 03:54:53 PM
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Paul is an equal opportunity infuriator, to borrow Vivien's word.
- 09/01/2012 10:56:57 PM
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The original santorum 2003 interview for those who want to know
- 07/01/2012 05:32:00 AM
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And here is the 2002 op ed where he blamed liberalism causing the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal
- 07/01/2012 05:36:39 AM
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