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and when santorum tells you that your lifestyle is worse than pedophilia and bestiality? moondog Send a noteboard - 06/01/2012 03:34:52 AM
One group thinks homosexual behavior is wrong. Another group thinks it is wrong to think homosexual behavior is wrong. One group claims to be the tolerant group, but it is hardly tolerance to embrace what you think is perfectly acceptable while villifying those who think differently.

I think a better definition of tolerance is living at peace with what you find objectionable. There are tolerant people on both sides of the argument, though far fewer than would tag themselves so. The trick is to rise above the desire to villify those who honestly see it differently than you.

That is why we come up with labels like pro-choice and pro-life, to give the implication that the other side is anti-life or anti-choice. Why do you like seeing babies die? Why do you like rippping agency from women? Those who see it differently than you are patently evil. The oldest trick in the political/religous/sports/social/anything book is to dehumanize those who oppose you so that you can unleash all of your vitriol and frustration against them without restraint. Afterall, why should you show restraint when the otherside has willfully and knowingly chosen to work for Satan?


don't get me wrong, i totally agree with what you said here, but santorum said that gay sex was worse than pedophilia and bestiality. how do you take someone like that seriously in the context of what you said above?
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Santorum is #2 in Iowa Larry - 04/01/2012 01:24:13 PM 1746 Views
would you stop using that word? It is gross. *NM* jh - 04/01/2012 01:48:45 PM 572 Views
What's your word for it? *NM* beetnemesis - 04/01/2012 03:43:44 PM 523 Views
Rövsmör. *NM* jh - 04/01/2012 09:50:21 PM 520 Views
Den var ny för mig. Lews_TherinThelamon - 06/01/2012 12:12:07 AM 684 Views
Well, there's nothing wrong with Santoruming in the privacy of one's home. Tom - 04/01/2012 02:35:56 PM 1064 Views
yeah that it so funny random thoughts - 04/01/2012 03:05:59 PM 932 Views
he kind of brought it on himself by being so decidedly anti-gay that it pissed lots of people off moondog - 04/01/2012 04:36:39 PM 974 Views
maybe the gays brought all the gay bashing on themselves random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:18:15 PM 1173 Views
Civility is a social contract Roland00 - 05/01/2012 04:39:46 PM 941 Views
so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game? random thoughts - 05/01/2012 06:37:52 PM 690 Views
Question have you read the Santorum interview? *NM* Roland00 - 05/01/2012 06:50:24 PM 486 Views
no I try to avoid him random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:17:45 PM 795 Views
Re: so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game? Bored - 06/01/2012 05:29:49 PM 948 Views
So is it OK if just insult the gays who are politically active and push their agenda? random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:16:30 PM 975 Views
If you call them out by name for hypocrisy, then sure. Bored - 10/01/2012 05:22:34 PM 998 Views
yes but once you have thrown out all civil decency why start getting nuanced? Ray - 11/01/2012 09:09:13 PM 919 Views
That's too harsh. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:29:05 PM 908 Views
While language changes with time Roland00 - 07/01/2012 04:13:28 AM 928 Views
I have to agree. Reluctantly. Legolas - 04/01/2012 06:19:13 PM 978 Views
Actually, your response was expected Larry - 04/01/2012 10:08:33 PM 1027 Views
don't forget.... moondog - 05/01/2012 02:27:49 AM 923 Views
do you still pretend that it isn't political? random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:14:25 PM 868 Views
I'm sorry Larry - 05/01/2012 03:52:57 PM 972 Views
funny how it always woks out that way random thoughts - 05/01/2012 06:44:55 PM 773 Views
Believe what you will, but my wok skills are poor Larry - 05/01/2012 07:32:17 PM 936 Views
You should ask one of the gays to help you. I hear the gays are good at cooking. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/01/2012 01:54:21 AM 613 Views
Queer stove eye for the straight guy? Larry - 06/01/2012 09:05:48 PM 843 Views
try using more heat and better oil *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:18:19 PM 500 Views
Corn oil? Larry - 06/01/2012 09:05:09 PM 794 Views
Peanut *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 11:27:49 PM 530 Views
Santorum is a man who believes you must compare homosexual love to bestiality and pedophilia Roland00 - 05/01/2012 04:42:26 AM 944 Views
and Savage is a Man who believes that vulgar personal attacks random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:12:42 PM 1091 Views
Why should a person tolerate intolerance? (Serious question.) *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 05/01/2012 08:46:05 PM 645 Views
The question boils down to why should someone tolerate what they think is wrong. Narg - 05/01/2012 10:53:40 PM 904 Views
and when santorum tells you that your lifestyle is worse than pedophilia and bestiality? moondog - 06/01/2012 03:34:52 AM 860 Views
To be fair... Narg - 06/01/2012 05:32:31 AM 1004 Views
You are correct Roland00 - 06/01/2012 01:21:18 PM 1057 Views
Then it seems like it's a problem of definitions more than anything else. Vivien - 06/01/2012 09:48:49 PM 964 Views
Following the logic to its bitter end. Why do I do this to myself??? Vivien - 06/01/2012 10:14:01 PM 1029 Views
Santourm is Roland00 - 07/01/2012 04:24:45 AM 980 Views
I'm fairly sure your theory is wrong. Legolas - 06/01/2012 10:42:14 PM 1030 Views
so Obama offended me by attending a racist America hating church random thoughts - 06/01/2012 05:32:14 PM 881 Views
Those are really not equivalent. Vivien - 06/01/2012 04:18:37 PM 822 Views
Re: Those are really not equivalent. Narg - 06/01/2012 10:27:11 PM 951 Views
I don't like your definition of tolerance and you're not consistent with it anyway. Vivien - 07/01/2012 01:49:05 AM 985 Views
In case you were curious, I really disagree with your understanding of tolerance. *NM* Vivien - 09/01/2012 08:24:45 PM 602 Views
But being the tolerant person that you are... Narg - 09/01/2012 09:01:10 PM 874 Views
This. Joel - 07/01/2012 01:35:43 PM 843 Views
I agree, lets shoot anyone who doesn't think like you *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 05:17:41 PM 500 Views
I'm really conflicted about the whole Santorum thing. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:42:02 PM 904 Views
I find myself agreeing with you recently random thoughts - 06/01/2012 08:38:37 PM 939 Views
dude, gross! *NM* temeraire - 04/01/2012 04:39:34 PM 509 Views
Dear Iowa, Wulf`gar - 04/01/2012 08:04:09 PM 943 Views
So at this point, most of the candidates had a moment at the top. Kind of awesome. Vivien - 05/01/2012 11:22:50 PM 931 Views
that is why Perry is staying in the race random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:20:54 PM 899 Views
He should stay, they should all stay. Trump should get back into it and Palin should jump in too. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:00:52 PM 842 Views
It would be the joke of the year if Huntsman got a turn. Legolas - 06/01/2012 10:59:36 PM 851 Views
Is he a bigger long shot than Santorum, though? Gingrich? Bachman? CAIN!? Vivien - 07/01/2012 01:34:47 AM 950 Views
Yes, for the reason you state. Joel - 07/01/2012 03:04:39 PM 909 Views
I really do not agree. Vivien - 09/01/2012 08:51:46 PM 943 Views
Like I said, check Obamas numbers any time in the last year and a half. Joel - 10/01/2012 11:41:47 AM 820 Views
he is moving up in New Hampshire random thoughts - 10/01/2012 05:16:14 PM 1035 Views
More like everyone has had a moment running second to Romney. Joel - 07/01/2012 01:59:25 PM 841 Views
It's not a foregone conclusion yet. ranagrande - 07/01/2012 04:03:51 PM 951 Views
It kinda is; Paul cannot even win a majority of Republicans, let alone the country. Joel - 07/01/2012 09:09:07 PM 925 Views
Ironically, Paul has a better chance of winning the general election than the republican primary. ranagrande - 07/01/2012 10:14:07 PM 1015 Views
What's the likelihood of Paul running as an independent/3rd party if he doesn't get the GOP nod? *NM* Stephen - 07/01/2012 10:21:23 PM 347 Views
Not very high, I think. He didn't try it last time either, and it would hand Obama the election. *NM* Legolas - 08/01/2012 01:29:01 AM 466 Views
He will threaten to do it, but not actually do it Roland00 - 08/01/2012 04:14:55 AM 1016 Views
many states have laws that you cannot run 3rd party after being on the ballot for a party primary moondog - 08/01/2012 06:12:36 AM 1050 Views
0 *NM* random thoughts - 09/01/2012 02:57:50 PM 453 Views
Yes, he and Romney have that in common, but Pauls positions are (mostly) sincere. Joel - 10/01/2012 03:46:04 PM 1027 Views
give up the hope it is nothing more than a pipe dream random thoughts - 09/01/2012 02:57:03 PM 963 Views
All of the republican candidates are pipe dreams. ranagrande - 09/01/2012 08:56:57 PM 763 Views
I find Ron Paul absolutely infuriating. Vivien - 09/01/2012 10:44:09 PM 1025 Views
Weed is kinda important Roland00 - 10/01/2012 03:31:00 PM 804 Views
So is women's health. About 50% of US. *NM* Vivien - 13/01/2012 01:46:15 AM 550 Views
Um... Joel - 10/01/2012 03:54:53 PM 858 Views
is an ass Roland00 - 10/01/2012 05:10:09 PM 994 Views
I would like to see that enforced. Joel - 10/01/2012 05:39:22 PM 1338 Views
So segregation when done by private businesses is ok? Vivien - 11/01/2012 02:20:32 PM 1039 Views
Define "OK." Joel - 11/01/2012 08:29:09 PM 918 Views
Paul is an equal opportunity infuriator, to borrow Vivien's word. Legolas - 09/01/2012 10:56:57 PM 923 Views
I agree with you completely. nossy - 10/01/2012 12:06:19 PM 945 Views
while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. ranagrande - 10/01/2012 02:21:46 PM 1376 Views
Re: while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. Legolas - 10/01/2012 07:38:39 PM 937 Views
Ron Paul's biggest problem is isn't a republican random thoughts - 10/01/2012 04:18:16 PM 945 Views
The original santorum 2003 interview for those who want to know Roland00 - 07/01/2012 05:32:00 AM 1144 Views
And here is the 2002 op ed where he blamed liberalism causing the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal Roland00 - 07/01/2012 05:36:39 AM 951 Views
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