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That doesn't really make sense. Sareitha Sedai Send a noteboard - 21/12/2011 03:04:23 PM
I didn't immediately associate my dream with the event, that's all. I was very cognizant that I had had the dream, and that I had told my friends about it and said it was one of those dreams that had the particular feel that it would come true.

I was just on the verge of conceding that I had been wrong, that the entire means by which I assessed if a dream had elements of prediction in it was wrong, and that the previous seven or eight such dreams were just a long line of coincidences.


Despite believing that your dreams have some sort of supernatural predictive value, you didn't associate a dream (that you were expecting to be predictive) about a plane floating down the river with an actual plane in that actual river a few months later?

And frankly, you're changing your story. You said, "When the "Miracle on the Hudson" happened, I had forgotten about the dream but my friends quickly reminded me" (emphasis mine). That's a pretty clear statement that contradicts what what you're claiming to have meant now. But I'm not going to argue the point with you. Neither version really makes a lot of sense, and I don't expect you to accept the version that allows for the possibility of confirmation bias.






If you are from Betelgeuse, please have one of your Earth friends read what I've written before you respond. Or try concentrating harder.

"The trophy problem has become extreme."
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Well. Sareitha Sedai - 21/12/2011 01:49:36 PM 1066 Views
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That doesn't really make sense. Sareitha Sedai - 21/12/2011 03:04:23 PM 893 Views
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The article I just read said he died on Saturday. Rebekah - 19/12/2011 08:58:17 AM 1027 Views
Yeah, he actually died on a train Saturday morning before Tom made the comment. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/12/2011 09:13:44 PM 449 Views
I'm not claiming causality. And, for the record, I first made the comment on Friday afternoon. Tom - 20/12/2011 04:25:07 AM 1030 Views
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all praise Madokami! *NM* Yunalesca - 19/12/2011 01:03:26 PM 561 Views
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That happened to me too. Nate - 19/12/2011 09:45:48 PM 1085 Views
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I wonder if they're going to embalm him? Tom - 20/12/2011 04:39:33 AM 907 Views
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I don't make a lot of predictions. *NM* Tom - 19/12/2011 08:18:53 PM 609 Views
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Just ones about old, sick guys dying? *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 19/12/2011 09:51:12 PM 438 Views
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I can attest to the fact that this conversation took place on Facebook Saturday. TaskmasterJack - 19/12/2011 09:19:06 PM 959 Views
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Not to downplay your awesomely uncanny coincidence... Avendesora - 20/12/2011 01:19:33 PM 967 Views
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