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See, I can't be an atheist. Tom Send a noteboard - 19/12/2011 03:53:55 AM
I'm not saying that a traditional religious text has all the answers, or that any person (living or dead) talks to God directly, or that God is something we can quantify and describe in the terms we do.

However, I cannot believe that there isn't something greater. The Kim Jong-il statement is just one in a LONG line of bizarre "coincidences" in my life. Dreams, predictions, etc., that come true with too much specificity for me to say "I'm an atheist". It happens too often and with too much regularity.

This also gets me back to my fundamental proposition: being an atheist is stupid. If you're right you don't benefit and if you're wrong you certainly may suffer. Although God is not a proven quantity, people around the world claim enough divine miracles, and I've personally experienced enough odd things, that stating affirmatively that there is no God is just as silly as stating that he is the inspiration for the Bible, or that he dictated the Qur'an.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

*MySmiley*
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Kim Jong-il is dead. Would you become a fervent believer? - 19/12/2011 03:37:28 AM 1837 Views
If I was a Christian, I'd pray that he would burn forever in hell. - 19/12/2011 03:47:52 AM 1261 Views
See, I can't be an atheist. - 19/12/2011 03:53:55 AM 1210 Views
I agree about atheism - 19/12/2011 04:19:02 AM 1162 Views
It's an approximation. - 19/12/2011 05:40:05 PM 1123 Views
no, I'm not saying that the sheer number of people alone is sufficient - 19/12/2011 10:13:09 PM 1001 Views
Re: See, I can't be an atheist. - 19/12/2011 04:25:06 AM 1096 Views
No, Pascal's Wager is stupid. - 19/12/2011 03:09:42 PM 1089 Views
You obviously misread my comments or ignored them. - 19/12/2011 03:39:59 PM 1117 Views
You're answering a different point to the one I was addressing. - 19/12/2011 04:01:54 PM 1019 Views
For atheism to be a tenable position, one must assume that millions lie about their experiences. - 20/12/2011 04:11:53 AM 1109 Views
Look, doesn't this go against your most sacred principle? - 20/12/2011 06:43:27 AM 1061 Views
I'm pretty sure he's not saying it's undeniable proof. - 20/12/2011 09:19:44 AM 1027 Views
No, it doesn't. - 20/12/2011 08:30:55 PM 973 Views
Re: No, it doesn't. - 20/12/2011 09:21:22 PM 1030 Views
This militant atheism is somewhat amusing. - 20/12/2011 09:48:57 PM 1029 Views
... somewhat irrational at times too - 21/12/2011 01:22:54 AM 952 Views
Huh? - 21/12/2011 10:47:06 AM 998 Views
That's somewhat unrelated to the intended point of the post - 21/12/2011 12:41:49 PM 1016 Views
My "Huh?" was at your claim that any reasonable definition Kim Jong-il was a millitant athiest - 21/12/2011 12:58:44 PM 977 Views
You're objecting to me calling the Military Dictator militant? - 21/12/2011 03:13:35 PM 1064 Views
Is that the long way of saying you can't back up what you said? - 21/12/2011 04:06:06 PM 958 Views
Okay - 21/12/2011 05:03:07 PM 1094 Views
Your position isn't rational nor logical - 20/12/2011 12:45:03 PM 1053 Views
How about a faith atheist? - 19/12/2011 04:28:59 PM 1158 Views
Nevermind. It appears you answered that in your reply to Tim. *NM* - 19/12/2011 04:32:19 PM 565 Views
Re: See, I can't be an atheist. - 19/12/2011 04:57:23 PM 1090 Views
Sounds like you must be a modern-day prophet - 19/12/2011 05:24:24 PM 944 Views
Well, it's *possible* that he is. - 19/12/2011 05:49:34 PM 1039 Views
Hah, fair enough - 19/12/2011 06:47:07 PM 1025 Views
Idiocy. Confirmation bias doesn't explain away external phenomena. - 20/12/2011 04:19:10 AM 1052 Views
Well. - 21/12/2011 01:49:36 PM 1066 Views
I didn't forget about it. I was getting ready to give up on it. - 21/12/2011 02:27:18 PM 955 Views
That doesn't really make sense. - 21/12/2011 03:04:23 PM 892 Views
No, it does make perfect sense. - 21/12/2011 06:17:02 PM 1070 Views
Also, learn to use the subjunctive. It's "if I WERE a Christian..." - 19/12/2011 03:54:20 AM 1050 Views
The sad thing about that comment... - 19/12/2011 04:52:57 AM 1175 Views
I really am gonna miss Hitchens...a lot *NM* *NM* - 19/12/2011 04:06:50 AM 497 Views
I will miss him, too...a lot. *NM* - 19/12/2011 04:17:05 AM 483 Views
so, hypothetically...if I was to send you a list of people... - 19/12/2011 04:25:47 AM 1021 Views
Let's not try that. - 20/12/2011 04:21:35 AM 1004 Views
I'm so ronery - 19/12/2011 06:36:38 AM 1065 Views
I thought you were asking if I believed in KJ-I, the Eternal Leader - 19/12/2011 06:55:08 AM 952 Views
You know what's really weird? - 19/12/2011 11:32:23 AM 1028 Views
It has been there for 6 hours at this stage. - 19/12/2011 12:34:57 PM 1120 Views
don't forget Mugabe (sp) - 19/12/2011 01:06:24 PM 967 Views
Zimbabwe basically is dust by now. *NM* - 19/12/2011 02:52:51 PM 481 Views
They took it down, apparently. *NM* - 20/12/2011 04:40:24 AM 472 Views
Turns out Kim Jong really was il? - 19/12/2011 12:10:15 PM 987 Views
all praise Madokami! *NM* - 19/12/2011 01:03:26 PM 561 Views
He's not dead-dead. Neither is his father. Just ask the North Koreans. - 19/12/2011 04:23:48 PM 1003 Views
Re: He's not dead-dead. Neither is his father. Just ask the North Koreans. - 19/12/2011 09:15:09 PM 956 Views
That happened to me too. - 19/12/2011 09:45:48 PM 1085 Views
Re: That happened to me too. - 19/12/2011 09:48:36 PM 971 Views
Re: Legend - 20/12/2011 04:54:40 PM 977 Views
I wonder if they're going to embalm him? - 20/12/2011 04:39:33 AM 907 Views
The problem with predictions that come true - 19/12/2011 05:28:24 PM 1067 Views
I don't make a lot of predictions. *NM* - 19/12/2011 08:18:53 PM 609 Views
Just ones about old, sick guys dying? *NM* - 19/12/2011 09:51:12 PM 438 Views
No, sadly. - 20/12/2011 04:31:44 AM 883 Views
I can attest to the fact that this conversation took place on Facebook Saturday. - 19/12/2011 09:19:06 PM 959 Views
Yeah, I thought that reply seemed in the wrong place - 19/12/2011 09:28:17 PM 960 Views
Re: Yeah, I thought that reply seemed in the wrong place - 19/12/2011 09:31:00 PM 983 Views
Yes, TMJ, you also contributed in this case. *NM* - 20/12/2011 04:38:42 AM 458 Views
I am not a dog to be petted! - 21/12/2011 02:42:55 AM 961 Views
HAHAHAHA!!!! *NM* - 21/12/2011 05:31:06 AM 548 Views
Coincidentally, I found this site today - 19/12/2011 10:57:36 PM 1014 Views
Oh, I liked that site. I found it a few years ago. *NM* - 20/12/2011 04:37:04 AM 475 Views
Jeez, I hope I never get on your bad side - 20/12/2011 12:06:54 AM 915 Views
Things did change for the better with Stalin's death. - 20/12/2011 02:51:12 AM 999 Views
Not for Stalin *NM* - 20/12/2011 09:49:39 PM 552 Views
eh, you can't have everything - 20/12/2011 11:08:36 PM 898 Views
Not to downplay your awesomely uncanny coincidence... - 20/12/2011 01:19:33 PM 967 Views

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