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They don't have homeowners insurance, the fire was probably caused by a space heater (I bet they used one of the 3 prong adapters and it overloaded the outlet with no ground), and they didn't pay the fee because they didn't think they'd need it. Are you fucking retarded? They don't quite deserve this, but I feel no sorrow for them. Not a bit.


maybe they are poor and trying to heat their home with a space heater and had an accident. Seriously, you need to lighten up a bit before you jump all over somebody's tragedy. Karma is a bitch.


Well they said they didn't pay it because they didn't think they needed it. Thats fine when buying a tv and not buying the extended warranty. Thats fine at Longhorn when you order the 9oz instead of the 12oz. But its not really fine when talking about... FIRE PROTECTION and in an area with recent history of people burning their homes down and receiving no help because they didn't pay. I mean, they're stupid. They should be living at home with mommy and daddy no matter their age.

Your mom. That's right. The cat is out of the bag. Your mom.

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firefighters allow home to burn to ground in rural tennessee - 06/10/2010 02:35:20 AM 2228 Views
what kind of bullshit is that? - 06/10/2010 03:19:12 AM 1245 Views
And that brings up another point. What if there had been someone in there? - 06/10/2010 04:03:49 AM 1234 Views
as i said before, they probably would have just rescued them then let the house burn. - 06/10/2010 04:11:24 AM 1221 Views
Why are you trivializing those "precious resources?" - 06/10/2010 04:56:13 AM 1329 Views
except we aren't talking about "people" or a "business" - 06/10/2010 05:03:18 AM 1306 Views
It's slightly different. - 06/10/2010 05:20:55 AM 1142 Views
I'm not against the fee. The fee makes sense. - 06/10/2010 05:24:39 AM 1297 Views
How does the fee makes sense? - 06/10/2010 05:27:30 AM 1212 Views
We ARE talking about a business. - 06/10/2010 05:33:40 AM 1085 Views
i wouldn't expect a doctor or a hospital to take free loaders - 06/10/2010 05:36:52 AM 1121 Views
Re: i wouldn't expect a doctor or a hospital to take free loaders - 06/10/2010 05:42:00 AM 1151 Views
if a doctor refuses to aid a dying patient, he'll lose his license, for one. - 06/10/2010 05:48:18 AM 1308 Views
Re: - 06/10/2010 05:59:03 AM 1145 Views
YES!!! Thank you!! - 06/10/2010 06:06:29 AM 1042 Views
that's how hospitals get shut down. - 06/10/2010 05:43:13 AM 1157 Views
This is why goverment must be tolerated *NM* - 06/10/2010 03:30:52 AM 548 Views
Not trying to be a troll, but this seems (mostly) reasonable. - 06/10/2010 03:44:53 AM 1322 Views
And running the govt this way is stupid for it leads to worse results, it is no better than SoN - 06/10/2010 04:02:02 AM 1146 Views
You are a post ninja. *NM* - 06/10/2010 04:02:51 AM 426 Views
It makes sense from a business standpoint. But that's precisely why we socialize these things. - 06/10/2010 04:02:25 AM 1399 Views
as an additional thought.... - 06/10/2010 04:09:57 AM 1047 Views
Apparently being poor wasn't a problem as he offered to pay whatever it takes. He gambled and lost. *NM* - 06/10/2010 05:11:40 AM 574 Views
you shouldn't have to be gambling on whether a public service will be given. - 06/10/2010 05:20:40 AM 1085 Views
No, the rural county's position is ridiculous. - 06/10/2010 05:21:27 AM 1158 Views
their position is ridiculous too. - 06/10/2010 05:22:33 AM 1125 Views
You liberals and your Big Brother. - 07/10/2010 09:09:15 AM 1050 Views
That's abominable. - 06/10/2010 04:03:18 AM 1185 Views
Re: That's abominable. - 06/10/2010 03:33:33 PM 1134 Views
I've been trying to figure out what I think for a few hours now. - 06/10/2010 04:24:35 AM 1127 Views
It wasn't bureacracy, it was his CHOICE. - 06/10/2010 04:30:22 AM 1157 Views
I believe the specific reason was "forgot". That's different. - 06/10/2010 04:47:38 AM 1182 Views
Why the double quotes then? - 06/10/2010 05:11:37 AM 1163 Views
doesn't sound like he intentionally didn't pay it with what you said. - 06/10/2010 05:18:26 AM 1100 Views
The setup itself is wrong. - 06/10/2010 05:25:13 AM 1073 Views
you can't buy insurance after the fact... - 06/10/2010 05:27:40 AM 1017 Views
Other than anarchists (read: idiots), who seriously argues against socialized police/firefighting? *NM* - 06/10/2010 05:20:39 AM 515 Views
We just found one: Aemon. *NM* - 06/10/2010 05:37:46 AM 529 Views
Meh. - 06/10/2010 05:47:40 AM 1022 Views
why? *points up* *NM* - 06/10/2010 05:51:06 AM 518 Views
How far up? Which post are you referring to? I don't understand your "why." *NM* - 06/10/2010 05:55:36 AM 570 Views
Yes. I was answering your question of "why" - this news story is the why. *NM* - 06/10/2010 06:00:56 AM 504 Views
Oh, I see. - 06/10/2010 06:05:52 AM 1099 Views
Fires don't just happen because people set them up themselves - 06/10/2010 11:34:05 AM 1221 Views
We have a government do these things for Market Failures exist. *NM* - 06/10/2010 12:46:25 PM 563 Views
When one is poor, things like that become less of a "choice." - 06/10/2010 12:47:08 PM 1081 Views
*Big Edit* I was spreading false information. (Please read edit at the bottom.) People should not - 06/10/2010 05:22:07 AM 1184 Views
and why was it so impossible for him to pay late or pay extra? - 06/10/2010 05:26:39 AM 1203 Views
Because the fire departments costs have to be paid continually. They need the steady income - 06/10/2010 05:33:34 AM 1110 Views
Re: - 06/10/2010 05:47:35 AM 1231 Views
Why not? Isn't that what freedom is about? - 06/10/2010 05:58:24 AM 1110 Views
I'm not free to die. I'm not even free to smoke weed. - 06/10/2010 06:07:17 AM 1147 Views
Practicality is indeed the answer. - 06/10/2010 06:32:24 AM 1145 Views
your model is impractical though - 06/10/2010 08:46:19 AM 1121 Views
because then no one would pay until their house burned. - 06/10/2010 05:34:52 AM 1101 Views
if this was a less severe fire, I would agree with both you and Tash entirely. - 06/10/2010 05:40:51 AM 1026 Views
Risk to other properties is not a good argument. They DID come out to prevent that. *NM* - 06/10/2010 05:54:19 AM 603 Views
that is not prevention, that is treatment. - 06/10/2010 05:56:16 AM 1130 Views
Re: that is not prevention, that is treatment. - 06/10/2010 06:00:44 AM 1055 Views
they may be better at doing the actual fire fighting... - 06/10/2010 06:14:18 AM 1090 Views
The problem is... - 06/10/2010 09:11:59 AM 1126 Views
Re: The problem is... - 06/10/2010 12:40:05 PM 1164 Views
Re: The problem is... - 06/10/2010 02:27:30 PM 1221 Views
Re: The problem is... - 06/10/2010 04:13:43 PM 1166 Views
Re: The problem is... - 06/10/2010 04:23:49 PM 1185 Views
You are making an assumption that isn't proven by the evidence you use there - 06/10/2010 11:34:05 AM 1054 Views
You are right. I did open my mouth before hearing both sides of the story. This information does - 06/10/2010 10:30:23 PM 1164 Views
Well we do all do it - 06/10/2010 11:06:10 PM 1132 Views
The is a problem wirth that argument - 06/10/2010 02:55:28 PM 1077 Views
Erm - 06/10/2010 04:46:17 PM 1183 Views
that is true - 06/10/2010 05:19:24 PM 1088 Views
And people wonder why I'm not a Libertarian. - 06/10/2010 06:03:55 AM 1134 Views
from the onion.... - 06/10/2010 08:53:36 AM 1048 Views
They're next after the lawyers, right? - 06/10/2010 09:41:34 AM 1051 Views
Yeah, that's why I always use the 'pragmatic libertarian' descriptor - 06/10/2010 09:54:48 AM 1124 Views
That I can respect and understand. - 06/10/2010 10:08:19 AM 1119 Views
Re: That I can respect and understand. - 06/10/2010 10:37:16 AM 1057 Views
Re: That I can respect and understand. - 06/10/2010 11:19:26 AM 1049 Views
What you are describing is an anarchist - 06/10/2010 12:37:05 PM 1240 Views
It often seems to devolve into semantics. - 06/10/2010 01:01:19 PM 1220 Views
Sigh I feel like I am arguing with the devil - 06/10/2010 01:12:49 PM 1146 Views
Only my impression, as an outsider. - 06/10/2010 01:29:56 PM 1155 Views
This is not a "libertarian" fire department... - 06/10/2010 02:14:03 PM 1063 Views
Libertarian/=non-government. - 06/10/2010 02:16:10 PM 1073 Views
I think you mean not equal to... - 06/10/2010 02:28:30 PM 1301 Views
please use != or <> or =/= not your crazy invented symbolism - 07/10/2010 07:38:31 AM 997 Views
I didn't invent it. - 07/10/2010 09:15:23 AM 1115 Views
Or you could use the correct sign &ne; since RAFO does unicode properly - 07/10/2010 09:51:39 AM 1077 Views
You're right; I keep forgetting that, sorry. - 07/10/2010 12:57:36 PM 999 Views
come on, you didn't learn anything from compsci in high school?? - 07/10/2010 04:09:48 PM 1062 Views
Which one does Turbo Pascal use? - 07/10/2010 04:14:50 PM 1194 Views
Turbo Pascal is about as dead as Fortran at this point - 07/10/2010 04:32:01 PM 1002 Views
My mom still has Fortran manuals. And COBOL. - 08/10/2010 12:02:21 PM 938 Views
A quick search shows Pascal using <> - 08/10/2010 03:15:47 PM 1136 Views
Huh, missed that. - 08/10/2010 03:18:40 PM 918 Views
Not relevant to how it acted in this case though *NM* - 06/10/2010 02:23:06 PM 505 Views
I see no issue with it... - 06/10/2010 02:26:46 PM 1164 Views
I'm not sure if you meant this as a reply to me? *NM* - 06/10/2010 02:32:39 PM 609 Views
Maybe I did, maybe I didn't. - 06/10/2010 02:57:37 PM 1110 Views
Oh that is easy. - 06/10/2010 03:04:04 PM 1206 Views
This better conveys what I was trying to say--this is a government problem - 06/10/2010 06:27:03 PM 1084 Views
I still don't agree - 06/10/2010 07:16:19 PM 1086 Views
If it were really a market-based decision... - 06/10/2010 08:00:29 PM 1193 Views
Re: If it were really a market-based decision... - 06/10/2010 08:35:55 PM 1050 Views
Refer hence. - 07/10/2010 09:39:42 AM 1143 Views
You are living in the past - 07/10/2010 02:10:06 PM 1032 Views
County government tends to be VERY limited over here. - 07/10/2010 03:16:45 PM 1163 Views
This a situation where you know there has to be a better way - 06/10/2010 02:59:12 PM 1125 Views
Good luck with that. - 07/10/2010 10:03:05 AM 1111 Views
some things should be done by the state and some by private organizations - 07/10/2010 02:38:01 PM 1178 Views
Does the state have authority to allocate county tax dollars? - 07/10/2010 04:03:25 PM 1093 Views
you have spent enough time in East Texas that you should know better than that - 07/10/2010 04:26:26 PM 1172 Views
In passing I'd like to note that this is a bizarre role reversal. - 08/10/2010 10:52:09 AM 1105 Views
I am not against government just bad government *NM* - 08/10/2010 02:38:26 PM 500 Views
I'll drink to that. - 08/10/2010 02:42:12 PM 1074 Views
if it wasn't I might be a democrat *NM* - 09/10/2010 04:43:35 PM 489 Views
Sounds like a sound decision to me. Fuck 'em. Burning trash? Idiots. *NM* - 06/10/2010 03:16:53 PM 529 Views
I love when people demonstrate their ignorance while calling other people stupid - 06/10/2010 04:37:52 PM 1153 Views
But really - 07/10/2010 12:19:38 AM 1205 Views
that depends on how rural an area we are talking about - 07/10/2010 01:48:03 AM 1081 Views
Fuck your ignorant comment city boy. People all over this country still burn trash. - 07/10/2010 01:18:15 AM 1137 Views
Re: Fuck your ignorant comment city boy. People all over this country still burn trash. - 07/10/2010 01:31:51 PM 1116 Views
and you were in MAINE. - 07/10/2010 02:28:32 PM 1096 Views
and so you think that is the way they do it everywhere? - 07/10/2010 02:41:09 PM 1046 Views
Re: and so you think that is the way they do it everywhere? - 09/10/2010 06:35:29 AM 1064 Views
Looks like it may be the law in Tennessee as well. - 09/10/2010 12:17:52 PM 1118 Views
I think something is being missed here by many. - 06/10/2010 03:39:12 PM 1267 Views
I don't believe a SINGLE person here has said they should not pay. - 06/10/2010 04:50:11 PM 1050 Views
I sort of did - 06/10/2010 05:27:53 PM 1089 Views
I do agree with you - 06/10/2010 05:48:22 PM 1117 Views
Re: I don't believe a SINGLE person here has said they should not pay. - 06/10/2010 06:26:54 PM 1110 Views
*sigh* no but this is not INSURANCE. - 06/10/2010 07:42:05 PM 1131 Views
I'm betting no one will "forget" the fee anytime soon. - 06/10/2010 04:57:38 PM 1201 Views
there can be less disasterous incentives to pay the fee. - 06/10/2010 05:50:01 PM 1207 Views
And what consequence(s) can/do you enforce if the after-the-fact fee isn't paid? *NM* - 06/10/2010 05:55:38 PM 536 Views
Triple the fee. - 06/10/2010 06:16:03 PM 1087 Views
Put the fire back in their house *NM* - 06/10/2010 06:27:43 PM 553 Views
i'm assuming that a provision like this would be written into the policy. - 06/10/2010 07:43:10 PM 1083 Views
So the house continues to burn while you are explaining this contract to the homeowner - 06/10/2010 08:08:00 PM 1115 Views
No, i mean in the original policy, not in something later signed. - 06/10/2010 10:20:46 PM 1161 Views
The whole program is an incentive. - 06/10/2010 07:13:45 PM 1029 Views
and by becoming a fireman, you accept an ethical obligation. - 06/10/2010 07:45:47 PM 1113 Views
I'm not saying I like it. - 07/10/2010 04:15:52 AM 1046 Views
Re: firefighters allow home to burn to ground in rural tennessee - 06/10/2010 06:05:45 PM 1225 Views
This. - 06/10/2010 08:27:54 PM 1232 Views
as a former firefighter, here's my opinion about this: - 06/10/2010 07:09:15 PM 1267 Views
I am guessing they were told not to do it again. - 06/10/2010 07:19:38 PM 1084 Views
bureaucracy ... - 07/10/2010 09:08:25 AM 1149 Views
Re: bureaucracy ... - 07/10/2010 11:46:12 AM 1293 Views
Now, John, your opinion as a professional firefighter is irrelevant here. - 06/10/2010 07:47:41 PM 1150 Views
You FORGOT the MOST IMPORTANT part: - 07/10/2010 10:10:17 AM 1115 Views
Outrageous. *NM* - 06/10/2010 07:11:43 PM 527 Views
That's shocking, to be honest - 06/10/2010 08:05:48 PM 1076 Views
My first question - 06/10/2010 11:53:41 PM 1187 Views
I agree with some of what you said - 07/10/2010 01:54:36 AM 1054 Views
*raises hand* speaking as someone who's participated in controlled prairie burning... - 07/10/2010 02:10:56 AM 1184 Views
I have seen uncontrolled prairie burning - 07/10/2010 04:51:49 AM 1116 Views
Why would the animals be in the house if 911 was called before the fire ever reached the house? - 07/10/2010 12:17:47 AM 1133 Views
That whole thing does seem strange to me as well - 07/10/2010 02:51:02 PM 1241 Views
The reports also seem to contradict one another? - 07/10/2010 02:55:59 PM 1119 Views
Yes, I noticed that - 07/10/2010 03:21:43 PM 1119 Views
I can't believe the stupidity being spewed in this post. The solution is readily clear. - 07/10/2010 01:32:01 AM 1287 Views
AMEN - 07/10/2010 03:16:41 AM 1298 Views
Sounds like a bad system - 07/10/2010 01:38:52 AM 1057 Views
Is it in bad taste to note that this thread is on fire...? - 07/10/2010 12:58:48 PM 1149 Views
looks like i started.... a FIRESTORM! - 07/10/2010 04:13:51 PM 1167 Views
http://bash.org/?349567 - 07/10/2010 04:29:53 PM 1148 Views
Apparently, this has happened again - 07/12/2011 09:05:20 PM 958 Views
Funny, I was thinking of this thread when I read that this morning too *NM* - 07/12/2011 09:24:47 PM 493 Views
What I was thinking was "Joel... " *NM* - 08/12/2011 02:13:35 AM 519 Views
That too... *NM* - 08/12/2011 02:15:04 AM 511 Views
Honestly, those people sound like idiots. - 09/12/2011 03:11:27 AM 1008 Views
They do. - 09/12/2011 01:25:49 PM 1068 Views
Or... - 11/12/2011 05:10:19 AM 1000 Views
Re: Or... - 13/12/2011 02:31:16 AM 1004 Views
You are all crazy posting in this old thread! - 11/12/2011 05:05:20 AM 1147 Views
Maybe - 12/12/2011 12:27:33 AM 1020 Views
Re: Maybe - 13/12/2011 02:33:42 AM 1133 Views
I'm not sure they are being consistent though. - 13/12/2011 06:33:23 PM 887 Views

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