Just because both contain the word "wall" doesn't mean they are the same thing.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 23/11/2011 10:38:52 PM
Because they want guards to shoot people trying to get in rather than out of the country? I would have to see the polls in question to know whether the gay marriage comparison is applicable; I am sure you are aware of the distinction between civil unions and gay marriage, and it does make a big difference for a lot of folks (myself included, but then, because "marriage" connotes, and even denotes, so many religious things for so many people I would prefer their be no secular legislation on it in the first place.) Cain has a record of going well beyond mere immigrant or gay bashing though, as illustrated by the reference to his statement that most Muslims are extremists. What is the difference between saying Muslims are a threat to national security and saying Jews are?
The shooting is a good place as any to start - I don't think any American politician is either stupid or ruthless enough to advocate a border wall with guards shooting at those who approach it.
But there are still more crucial differences that make it such a retarded analogy. Such as the obvious fact that Mexicans would still be allowed into the US as tourists and legal immigrants, and all the wall would do is keep people from entering the country illegally - or making it a fair sight harder, anyway.
I don't know why I'm even bothering to point out things as obvious as this, I certainly have no intention of squabbling over them further when you (dare I say inevitably) feel the need to reply.
And certainly there is a difference between civil unions and gay marriage, but I think my point was clear all the same. And the attitudes towards homosexuality and gay unions of any kind espoused by the Greeks, to name the most obvious example, make the US look like one gigantic San Francisco - doesn't mean the Greeks are Nazis. Your excuses for why bringing them up was supposedly justified in this thread are really rather feeble.
How is a Bigoted Ass clown still in the top 3 for the GOP nomination?
22/11/2011 02:40:35 AM
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Because the alternatives are mostly even worse? *NM*
22/11/2011 02:46:53 AM
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Jon Huntsman is worse tha Cain? Mitt Romney is worse than Cain? Ron Paul is worse than Cain?
22/11/2011 03:27:57 AM
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Bachmann is the only who comes close to being worse than Cain
23/11/2011 03:11:24 AM
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Wow, that did kind of surprise me.
23/11/2011 10:27:52 PM
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I think Obama was and is a bad choice but I don't think he is the worst
28/11/2011 05:14:04 PM
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I can't tell who you're talking about. Name a politician that doesn't fit your description. *NM*
22/11/2011 03:44:43 AM
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Jon huntsman. Mitt Romney. both are smart. foreign policy is something they get
22/11/2011 04:35:36 AM
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Romney has been a politician too long.
23/11/2011 03:10:33 AM
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Yeah, what we really need are people who are totally unqualified for the position.
23/11/2011 06:51:52 AM
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Re: Jon huntsman. Mitt Romney. both are smart. foreign policy is something they get
24/11/2011 04:27:17 AM
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No one has told him yet that dog whistles are supposed to be inaudible to humans.
22/11/2011 04:18:21 AM
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That one seemed like a non-sequitur even by your standards...
22/11/2011 07:42:19 PM
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It follows from "not that I had anything against foreign doctors, but it sounded too foreign."
23/11/2011 06:18:20 AM
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Or doesn't follow, as the case may be.
23/11/2011 09:26:34 PM
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How is a reference to the Berlin Wall out of line when people are calling for a wall on the border?
23/11/2011 10:14:50 PM
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Just because both contain the word "wall" doesn't mean they are the same thing.
23/11/2011 10:38:52 PM
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Ignoring the rant I do have a question
22/11/2011 09:40:25 PM
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No, just a not so random aspersion.
23/11/2011 06:28:41 AM
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Ah, pity that
23/11/2011 04:44:31 PM
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I fail to see how the context changes the import of his remark.
23/11/2011 05:11:27 PM
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I was hoping it was Disch, but I'm pretty sure it was just a validation of Godwin. *NM*
23/11/2011 06:47:04 AM
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I decided asking where Cains white robe is would be in bad taste, all things considered.
23/11/2011 09:01:37 AM
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I think this is out of context
22/11/2011 12:40:08 PM
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Interesting POV. Thank you for adding your take on his remarks in context. I still don't like him
27/11/2011 10:10:53 PM
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Your welcome and fair enough, but the Spotlight tends to make everyone seem less nice *NM*
27/11/2011 11:28:33 PM
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I'm frankly surprised that he ever rose in popularity.
22/11/2011 02:37:43 PM
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Two things.
22/11/2011 04:45:36 PM
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Paul IS a former Libertarian Party presidential nominee, after all.
23/11/2011 09:15:55 AM
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Mostly agree.
23/11/2011 12:53:39 AM
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Television appearances are generally a very bad way to assess intelligence
23/11/2011 03:42:08 AM
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Re: How do Bigoted Ass clowns make up an entire major party?
22/11/2011 04:48:11 PM
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I don't think it is fair to say the liberals have taken over the democratic party
22/11/2011 07:42:11 PM
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