Our leaders should be held accountable for refusing to lead, and we for accepting that.
Joel Send a noteboard - 22/11/2011 12:09:51 AM
The whole stamp our feet and scream NO NO NO. I'm taking my bat and ball and going home is NOT the way to run a country. But then, people think that they're AWESOME for holding america accountable. No, they're just holding america HOSTAGE. there's a difference.
They used to say, "if the people will lead, the leaders will follow." Somewhere during one the many red scares the idea arose that holding leaders accountable is somehow unpatriotic; perversely, the one time it IS still considered patriotic is when directed at government itself rather than those leading it. We need to remember how to be constructive, and how to be a community (the two go hand in hand, and just because "community" and "communism" have the same root words does not make them synonymous.) We need to manufacture, produce, educate, heal, save, invest and COOPERATE, because unless we do the last we cannot accomplish any of the others as a nation of 310,000,000 all living on top of and influencing each others lives but looking out for ourselves alone.
Self-reliance and competition are fine, necessary, but need not and should not entail parasitism and predation. It would help immeasurably if we did a better job remembering that reasonable men can differ, that having an incredibly different view of what best serves the nations interest does not make ones political opponents the Anti-Christ. I admit I am not exactly the best role model, too often let my knowledge of peoples partisanship color my view of their particular positions. However, objective good faith dialogues teach us a great deal about the motives and needs of those with whom we differ. Such conversations are also the only way to understand the individual needs and interests of others, particularly when they are quite foreign to ourselves. That understanding is indispensable to citizens leading and governing in the best interest of the nation rather than that of narrow groups whose interests are often served at the expense of all others to the detriment of the nation, and thus, ultimately, to them as well.
Widespread unemployment, poverty, illiteracy and ill health is in no Americans best interest, and it is past time we recognized that, rather than indulging the conceit that the millions suffering those problems impairing or precluding contributions to the country should solve them for themselves, without "imposing" on others. An ignorant, malnourished, sickly and unemployed public weakens the nation in ways far more detrimental to the more fortunate than a marginally greater tax rate ever could. It really does not matter how low ones taxes are if ones money is worthless because the nation produces nothing but debt and ignorant, sickly impoverished children.
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This message last edited by Joel on 22/11/2011 at 12:10:11 AM
An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do
20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM
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Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM*
20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM
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Yeah, 'cos YTs comments are all about disobedience, and the OWSers are all about submission.
20/11/2011 12:24:36 PM
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Actually, my comment are about taking responsibility for yourself. *NM*
20/11/2011 05:48:33 PM
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As usual you miss the point completely. *NM*
20/11/2011 08:27:02 PM
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You want people vocally refusing slavery to return to slavery; I got the point.
21/11/2011 11:24:21 PM
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If what I was saying amounted to that than what your arguing for would to...
22/11/2011 06:32:04 AM
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This is also not about you; the response to which you replied here has been edited accordingly.
22/11/2011 08:10:21 AM
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How much violence has there actually been?
20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM
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Re: How much violence has there actually been?
20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM
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Because it's easy.
20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM
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I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy.
20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM
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Asian parents have the right idea
20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM
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because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race...
20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM
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every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) ....
20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM
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I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that
20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM
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I understand that, and agree to a certain extent.
20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM
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To take it a step further
21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM
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Fees are mostly increasing because of tuition increase caps paired with state funding cuts
21/11/2011 01:50:02 PM
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Ultimately, there is only black and white, but they mix freely and liberally in the real world.
21/11/2011 11:38:34 PM
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HUZZAH! Very well said.
20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM
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Our leaders should be held accountable for refusing to lead, and we for accepting that.
22/11/2011 12:09:51 AM
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I think people were jeering OWS for not being "focused" because there are so many damn problems
20/11/2011 04:54:24 PM
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Largely true, in many respects; again, the Tea Party had much the same problem for the same reasons.
22/11/2011 12:26:29 AM
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It is WEIRD when Ron Paul consistently comes off as the least insane GOP candidate
22/11/2011 02:56:33 AM
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Yeah, I recall that link, and still do not entirely agree with it.
22/11/2011 04:16:13 AM
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"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM*
20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM
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Yep, there are lots of jobs...
20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM
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Re: Yep, there are lots of jobs...
22/11/2011 04:01:35 AM
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I know about a dozen Philosophy Majors off the top of my head, all of whom are gainfully employed.
22/11/2011 11:36:47 AM
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Re:I know about a dozen Philosophy Majors off the top of my head,all of whom are gainfully employed.
24/11/2011 04:30:00 AM
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Excercise in creative thinking...
20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM
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So you think there's no real unemployment problem aside from people being lazy and entitled? *NM*
21/11/2011 03:32:16 AM
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I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs.
20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM
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but what kind of jobs?
20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM
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"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha
20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM
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Im a nurse
20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM
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You had me worried about the young girl I used to know for a moment. *NM*
21/11/2011 01:01:04 AM
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I actually have a lot of respect for plastic surgeons outside pure cosmetics
21/11/2011 01:02:59 AM
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job that pay money
20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM
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lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take
20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM
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Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take
20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM
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Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take
21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM
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That's a shitty situation
21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM
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First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables.
20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM
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Actually it is the case in some parts of America. Just not the parts that get mentioned.
22/11/2011 04:05:44 AM
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Doesn't matter when people aren't there, or people don't have the required skills.
20/11/2011 11:51:53 PM
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If you can drive a truck I can get you a job tommorw hauling sand for fracing *NM*
02/09/2012 09:32:39 PM
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...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills.
20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM
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Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons?
20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM
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You know what he meant.
20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM
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You're talking about the Supreme Court case Citizens United v. Federal Elections Commission.
20/11/2011 10:38:43 PM
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Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886.
22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM
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You do realize...
22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM
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Almost anything CAN happen.
22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM
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Actually I think we should be prosecuting these people
22/11/2011 07:46:56 AM
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Well, this is a red letter day; I agree with nearly, perhaps ENTIRELY, all of what you said here.
22/11/2011 07:59:42 AM
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You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it.
23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM
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Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ...
20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM
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Good post
20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM
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The UN is clearly out of touch with reality.
20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM
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"There is no right to work"?
22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM
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That would be a legal right relating to unions not a basic human right. *NM*
22/11/2011 05:57:34 AM
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Right; there is a right to work when it suits you, and not when it does not.
22/11/2011 07:16:40 AM
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...do you know what "right-to-work" in those states entails?
22/11/2011 07:55:02 AM
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I would not pretend to be an authority on it, no, but broadly speaking, yes.
22/11/2011 08:12:50 AM
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Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM*
22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM
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Ikke ennĂ¥.
22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM
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So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest?
21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM
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I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled
22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM
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Re: I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled
24/11/2011 03:07:09 AM
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