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Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM
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An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do MightyYT - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 1757 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* Urza - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 533 Views
Yeah, 'cos YTs comments are all about disobedience, and the OWSers are all about submission. Joel - 20/11/2011 12:24:36 PM 865 Views
Actually, my comment are about taking responsibility for yourself. *NM* MightyYT - 20/11/2011 05:48:33 PM 542 Views
Some of them are doing just that. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:14:58 PM 782 Views
As usual you miss the point completely. *NM* Urza - 20/11/2011 08:27:02 PM 538 Views
You want people vocally refusing slavery to return to slavery; I got the point. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:24:21 PM 967 Views
If what I was saying amounted to that than what your arguing for would to... Urza - 22/11/2011 06:32:04 AM 841 Views
Not at all. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:50:41 AM 781 Views
This is also not about you; the response to which you replied here has been edited accordingly. Joel - 22/11/2011 08:10:21 AM 902 Views
How much violence has there actually been? Joel - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM 893 Views
Re: How much violence has there actually been? ironclad - 20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM 953 Views
Because it's easy. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM 858 Views
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. Tom - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM 777 Views
Completely agree. *NM* Stephen - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 598 Views
Asian parents have the right idea Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM 901 Views
because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 845 Views
every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) .... Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM 872 Views
I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM 876 Views
You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* Tom - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 485 Views
lol! oops! *edit* fail. *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:42:33 PM 503 Views
I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 836 Views
Well... Tom - 21/11/2011 05:39:09 AM 807 Views
Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM 436 Views
To take it a step further Praziquantel - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 798 Views
I agree 100%. Tom - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 738 Views
Fees are mostly increasing because of tuition increase caps paired with state funding cuts Sareitha Sedai - 21/11/2011 01:50:02 PM 737 Views
they are. LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 06:55:27 PM 781 Views
Ultimately, there is only black and white, but they mix freely and liberally in the real world. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:38:34 PM 763 Views
HUZZAH! Very well said. alanna aes sedai - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 789 Views
Our leaders should be held accountable for refusing to lead, and we for accepting that. Joel - 22/11/2011 12:09:51 AM 765 Views
I think people were jeering OWS for not being "focused" because there are so many damn problems beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 04:54:24 PM 892 Views
Largely true, in many respects; again, the Tea Party had much the same problem for the same reasons. Joel - 22/11/2011 12:26:29 AM 936 Views
It is WEIRD when Ron Paul consistently comes off as the least insane GOP candidate beetnemesis - 22/11/2011 02:56:33 AM 761 Views
Yeah, I recall that link, and still do not entirely agree with it. Joel - 22/11/2011 04:16:13 AM 675 Views
Well yeah, because you sympathize with OWS beetnemesis - 22/11/2011 02:34:51 PM 841 Views
I would not go that far. Joel - 23/11/2011 07:09:22 AM 1083 Views
"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM* Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM 502 Views
Yep, there are lots of jobs... MightyYT - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 890 Views
Re: Yep, there are lots of jobs... callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:01:35 AM 779 Views
I know about a dozen Philosophy Majors off the top of my head, all of whom are gainfully employed. Dan - 22/11/2011 11:36:47 AM 825 Views
Re:I know about a dozen Philosophy Majors off the top of my head,all of whom are gainfully employed. callandor1000 - 24/11/2011 04:30:00 AM 983 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs Aisha - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 906 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 890 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 817 Views
*NM* everynametaken - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 493 Views
So you think there's no real unemployment problem aside from people being lazy and entitled? *NM* Dan - 21/11/2011 03:32:16 AM 536 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 871 Views
but what kind of jobs? Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 693 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha Urza - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 930 Views
Im a nurse Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 813 Views
You had me worried about the young girl I used to know for a moment. *NM* Urza - 21/11/2011 01:01:04 AM 498 Views
I actually have a lot of respect for plastic surgeons outside pure cosmetics LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 01:02:59 AM 876 Views
job that pay money LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 854 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 844 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Roonas - 20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM 789 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Aisha - 21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM 898 Views
That's a shitty situation LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM 755 Views
While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... Ghavrel - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM 675 Views
no I realize that LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 653 Views
First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables. LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM 821 Views
Actually it is the case in some parts of America. Just not the parts that get mentioned. callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:05:44 AM 797 Views
Thats a big problem, Aisha Urza - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 761 Views
Doesn't matter when people aren't there, or people don't have the required skills. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:51:53 PM 782 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* everynametaken - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 472 Views
If you can drive a truck I can get you a job tommorw hauling sand for fracing *NM* random thoughts - 02/09/2012 09:32:39 PM 330 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 812 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 933 Views
I may need to be more concise about something MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 859 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 725 Views
Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons? Tom - 20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM 777 Views
You know what he meant. Legolas - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 840 Views
You're talking about the Supreme Court case Citizens United v. Federal Elections Commission. Tom - 20/11/2011 10:38:43 PM 714 Views
Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886. Joel - 22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM 805 Views
You do realize... Urza - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 766 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 803 Views
Actually I think we should be prosecuting these people Urza - 22/11/2011 07:46:56 AM 777 Views
Well, this is a red letter day; I agree with nearly, perhaps ENTIRELY, all of what you said here. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:59:42 AM 783 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. Tom - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 807 Views
That looks a little shaky. Joel - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 833 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... Roonas - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 885 Views
I love this post. *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 482 Views
Good post Stephen - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 839 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... Roonas - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 750 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. Tom - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 836 Views
"There is no right to work"? Joel - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 827 Views
That would be a legal right relating to unions not a basic human right. *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 05:57:34 AM 477 Views
Right; there is a right to work when it suits you, and not when it does not. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:16:40 AM 732 Views
...do you know what "right-to-work" in those states entails? Ghavrel - 22/11/2011 07:55:02 AM 871 Views
I would not pretend to be an authority on it, no, but broadly speaking, yes. Joel - 22/11/2011 08:12:50 AM 882 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 456 Views
Ikke ennå. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 810 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 518 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 735 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? Dan - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 833 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 806 Views
I am also not Dan. Joel - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 695 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? Dan - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 894 Views
I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled Helene - 22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM 913 Views
Re: I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled Roonas - 24/11/2011 03:07:09 AM 758 Views
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