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While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM
It is equally true that many of the protesters are hard-working people who have been screwed over. It's easy to pigeonhole people, but it is, as you said, not the reality of the situation. Just because you worked hard and are doing well does not mean that everyone who works hard will do well. Many people have worked hard and had their feet knocked out from under them.

I don't really support OWS, but I support it a hell of a lot more than I support the callous "I've got mine" mentality that I've seen popping up so frequently in this thread. Is it really so hard to realize that some people have had different life experiences than we've had?
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An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do MightyYT - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 1757 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* Urza - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 533 Views
Yeah, 'cos YTs comments are all about disobedience, and the OWSers are all about submission. Joel - 20/11/2011 12:24:36 PM 865 Views
Actually, my comment are about taking responsibility for yourself. *NM* MightyYT - 20/11/2011 05:48:33 PM 542 Views
Some of them are doing just that. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:14:58 PM 782 Views
As usual you miss the point completely. *NM* Urza - 20/11/2011 08:27:02 PM 538 Views
You want people vocally refusing slavery to return to slavery; I got the point. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:24:21 PM 967 Views
If what I was saying amounted to that than what your arguing for would to... Urza - 22/11/2011 06:32:04 AM 841 Views
Not at all. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:50:41 AM 781 Views
This is also not about you; the response to which you replied here has been edited accordingly. Joel - 22/11/2011 08:10:21 AM 902 Views
How much violence has there actually been? Joel - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM 893 Views
Re: How much violence has there actually been? ironclad - 20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM 953 Views
Because it's easy. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM 858 Views
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. Tom - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM 777 Views
Completely agree. *NM* Stephen - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 598 Views
Asian parents have the right idea Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM 901 Views
because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 845 Views
every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) .... Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM 873 Views
I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM 876 Views
You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* Tom - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 485 Views
lol! oops! *edit* fail. *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:42:33 PM 503 Views
I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 836 Views
Well... Tom - 21/11/2011 05:39:09 AM 807 Views
Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM 436 Views
To take it a step further Praziquantel - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 798 Views
I agree 100%. Tom - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 738 Views
Fees are mostly increasing because of tuition increase caps paired with state funding cuts Sareitha Sedai - 21/11/2011 01:50:02 PM 737 Views
they are. LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 06:55:27 PM 781 Views
Ultimately, there is only black and white, but they mix freely and liberally in the real world. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:38:34 PM 763 Views
HUZZAH! Very well said. alanna aes sedai - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 789 Views
Our leaders should be held accountable for refusing to lead, and we for accepting that. Joel - 22/11/2011 12:09:51 AM 765 Views
I think people were jeering OWS for not being "focused" because there are so many damn problems beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 04:54:24 PM 892 Views
Largely true, in many respects; again, the Tea Party had much the same problem for the same reasons. Joel - 22/11/2011 12:26:29 AM 937 Views
It is WEIRD when Ron Paul consistently comes off as the least insane GOP candidate beetnemesis - 22/11/2011 02:56:33 AM 762 Views
Yeah, I recall that link, and still do not entirely agree with it. Joel - 22/11/2011 04:16:13 AM 676 Views
Well yeah, because you sympathize with OWS beetnemesis - 22/11/2011 02:34:51 PM 841 Views
I would not go that far. Joel - 23/11/2011 07:09:22 AM 1083 Views
"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM* Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM 502 Views
Yep, there are lots of jobs... MightyYT - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 890 Views
Re: Yep, there are lots of jobs... callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:01:35 AM 780 Views
I know about a dozen Philosophy Majors off the top of my head, all of whom are gainfully employed. Dan - 22/11/2011 11:36:47 AM 826 Views
Re:I know about a dozen Philosophy Majors off the top of my head,all of whom are gainfully employed. callandor1000 - 24/11/2011 04:30:00 AM 983 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs Aisha - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 906 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 890 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 817 Views
*NM* everynametaken - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 493 Views
So you think there's no real unemployment problem aside from people being lazy and entitled? *NM* Dan - 21/11/2011 03:32:16 AM 536 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 871 Views
but what kind of jobs? Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 693 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha Urza - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 930 Views
Im a nurse Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 813 Views
You had me worried about the young girl I used to know for a moment. *NM* Urza - 21/11/2011 01:01:04 AM 498 Views
I actually have a lot of respect for plastic surgeons outside pure cosmetics LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 01:02:59 AM 876 Views
job that pay money LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 854 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 844 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Roonas - 20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM 789 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Aisha - 21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM 898 Views
That's a shitty situation LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM 755 Views
While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... Ghavrel - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM 676 Views
no I realize that LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 653 Views
First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables. LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM 821 Views
Actually it is the case in some parts of America. Just not the parts that get mentioned. callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:05:44 AM 797 Views
Thats a big problem, Aisha Urza - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 761 Views
Doesn't matter when people aren't there, or people don't have the required skills. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:51:53 PM 782 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* everynametaken - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 472 Views
If you can drive a truck I can get you a job tommorw hauling sand for fracing *NM* random thoughts - 02/09/2012 09:32:39 PM 330 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 813 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 933 Views
I may need to be more concise about something MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 859 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 726 Views
Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons? Tom - 20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM 778 Views
You know what he meant. Legolas - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 841 Views
You're talking about the Supreme Court case Citizens United v. Federal Elections Commission. Tom - 20/11/2011 10:38:43 PM 715 Views
Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886. Joel - 22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM 806 Views
You do realize... Urza - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 766 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 803 Views
Actually I think we should be prosecuting these people Urza - 22/11/2011 07:46:56 AM 777 Views
Well, this is a red letter day; I agree with nearly, perhaps ENTIRELY, all of what you said here. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:59:42 AM 784 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. Tom - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 807 Views
That looks a little shaky. Joel - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 833 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... Roonas - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 885 Views
I love this post. *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 482 Views
Good post Stephen - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 839 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... Roonas - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 750 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. Tom - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 837 Views
"There is no right to work"? Joel - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 827 Views
That would be a legal right relating to unions not a basic human right. *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 05:57:34 AM 478 Views
Right; there is a right to work when it suits you, and not when it does not. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:16:40 AM 732 Views
...do you know what "right-to-work" in those states entails? Ghavrel - 22/11/2011 07:55:02 AM 871 Views
I would not pretend to be an authority on it, no, but broadly speaking, yes. Joel - 22/11/2011 08:12:50 AM 882 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 456 Views
Ikke ennå. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 810 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 518 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 735 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? Dan - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 833 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 807 Views
I am also not Dan. Joel - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 695 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? Dan - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 894 Views
I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled Helene - 22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM 914 Views
Re: I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled Roonas - 24/11/2011 03:07:09 AM 758 Views
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