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Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM
I've been to the protests in NYC and DC. What do you mean by "they're not at all peaceful?" My experiences mostly just consisted of people shouting.

I'll just roll my eyes at you using the term "Mary Jane," and continue.


Here is the value, the boiled down message, that I said in my post:

The Occupy protests are protesting the level of power corporations have, specifically the level of power they have over the government.


The things I listed- the bailouts, corporate personhood, the rest- were off-the-cuff examples of that message.

There are NOT laws against most of the things people have complained about. There are plenty of corporation-linked donations to campaign re-election funds. There aren't laws against massive government bailouts.

Even when there are laws, they often don't matter. If Citibank makes a profit of a billion, and then eventually has to pay fines of millions, do you think that's going to stop equally shady dealings in the future?


There are plenty of examples to list. And you didn't answer my question. Do you think that banks and corporations have no interest in politics, and have not been trying to exert their influence? Or do you know that they do, and don't mind?

Seriously- do you? If your position is "Oh, of course they have their hand in politics and I am fine with them spending millions to make sure "their" candidate is voted in," then at least I'll know where we disagree.


And my point about the massive crowds of people, all over the world protesting, was this: If this many people, in this many parts of the world, are this upset over something, then maybe there's a deeper problem than "they're lazy."
I amuse myself.
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An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 1757 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 533 Views
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Completely agree. *NM* - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 598 Views
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because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 845 Views
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You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 485 Views
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I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 836 Views
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To take it a step further - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 798 Views
I agree 100%. - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 738 Views
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HUZZAH! Very well said. - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 789 Views
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Yep, there are lots of jobs... - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 890 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 906 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 890 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 817 Views
*NM* - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 493 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 871 Views
but what kind of jobs? - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 693 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 930 Views
Im a nurse - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 813 Views
job that pay money - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 854 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 844 Views
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no I realize that - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 653 Views
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Thats a big problem, Aisha - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 761 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 472 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 813 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 933 Views
I may need to be more concise about something - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 859 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 726 Views
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You know what he meant. - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 841 Views
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You do realize... - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 766 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 803 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 807 Views
That looks a little shaky. - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 833 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 885 Views
I love this post. *NM* - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 482 Views
Good post - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 839 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 750 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 837 Views
"There is no right to work"? - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 827 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 456 Views
Ikke ennĂ¥. - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 810 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 518 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 735 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 833 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 807 Views
I am also not Dan. - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 695 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 894 Views

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