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...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM
First off, it's 2011. Using the word "hippie" makes you sound like you don't know what you're talking about; more to the point, it makes you sound like Cartman.

A lot of what you're saying sounds like it's being parroted from TV news pundits. It's incredibly easy to dismiss an entire subset of the country by calling them rapists and morons. Have you been to any of these protests? They're pretty orderly, up until police start shooting rubber bullets at peaceful protesters. And even if everyone protesting, all of the thousands of people from all walks of life, was a heroin addict that kicked puppies, that wouldn't change what they were protesting.


You say that there isn't a defined message? That's a complaint from a few months ago. This... isn't actually particularly difficult. The Occupy protests are protesting the level of power corporations have, specifically the level of power they have over the government.

It may seem "ill-defined" because it's such a pervasive problem.

Massive bailouts.

Incredibly dishonest banking and investment policies, with little to no punishment from the law (If Citibank makes a billion or two in profit from shady deals, millions in fines won't discourage that).

Lobbyists, and corporations donating massive amounts of money to fund "their" candidates re-election.

The courts saying that a corporation is considered a "person."


Is this something you disagree with? Do you think that banks and corporations have no interest in politics, and have not been trying to exert their influence? Or do you know that they do, and don't mind? (These aren't rhetorical questions- I'm honestly interested in your response to these specific questions).



They're not protesting the fact that they have to pay their credit cards. They're not protesting student loan debt. (Student loan debt is an issue that could use some examining/regulation, but it's nowhere near the focus of these protests).

Finally, when thousands of people, all over the world (yes, the world) are protesting something, over an extended period of time, maybe your gut reaction shouldn't be "Oh, they're all just drugged-out losers, morons, and rapists." Historically, when there have been massive, ongoing protests, who ends up being in the right? Is it the people who sit at home, smirking, going "Everything's just fine, those guys are idiots?"



PS. Also, a little advice: Maybe you shouldn't tell peaceful protesters that they're not living up to the ideals of America.
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An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 1748 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 530 Views
How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM 884 Views
Re: How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM 944 Views
Because it's easy. - 20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM 848 Views
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM 763 Views
Completely agree. *NM* - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 593 Views
Asian parents have the right idea - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM 893 Views
because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 836 Views
every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) .... - 20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM 857 Views
I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that - 20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM 859 Views
You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 482 Views
lol! oops! *edit* fail. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:42:33 PM 498 Views
I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 823 Views
Well... - 21/11/2011 05:39:09 AM 792 Views
Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM 431 Views
To take it a step further - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 787 Views
I agree 100%. - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 727 Views
they are. - 21/11/2011 06:55:27 PM 769 Views
HUZZAH! Very well said. - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 775 Views
"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM* - 20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM 498 Views
Yep, there are lots of jobs... - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 875 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 899 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 880 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 806 Views
*NM* - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 488 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 861 Views
but what kind of jobs? - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 687 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 918 Views
Im a nurse - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 800 Views
job that pay money - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 842 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 829 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM 779 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM 885 Views
That's a shitty situation - 21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM 742 Views
While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM 665 Views
no I realize that - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 639 Views
First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables. - 20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM 802 Views
Thats a big problem, Aisha - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 747 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 469 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 803 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 920 Views
I may need to be more concise about something - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 848 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 717 Views
Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons? - 20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM 765 Views
You know what he meant. - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 829 Views
Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886. - 22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM 795 Views
You do realize... - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 749 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 789 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 796 Views
That looks a little shaky. - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 822 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 880 Views
I love this post. *NM* - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 478 Views
Good post - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 828 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 735 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 824 Views
"There is no right to work"? - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 814 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 450 Views
Ikke ennĂ¥. - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 795 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 512 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 722 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 819 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 794 Views
I am also not Dan. - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 679 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 882 Views

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