It's a false analogy to compare the Civil War with the Declaration of Independence.
Tom Send a noteboard - 24/10/2011 05:38:04 AM
Our independence was founded on several notions, but all of them centered on the basic principles of the Glorious Revolution - freedoms of speech and the press, and a right to representation. The "taxation without representation is tyranny" statement was a very strong one. We were using the same language used in 1688 and upon which, as is rightly mentioned by the defenders of our independence, the British political system was founded.
By contrast, the secession of the Southern states was the exit from a nation of states represented in Congress, able to vote for President and with all the rights enshrined in the Constitution, on the grounds that the states wanted to preserve the right to determine whether or not they could buy, sell and own other human beings. Even Jefferson Davis realized that the moral grounds for the South's existence were shaky, and the irony of it all is that Davis was far more of an autocrat in the South than Lincoln was in the North, for reasons of expediency.
Just as Marbury v. Madison declared that the power to appoint does not automatically grant the power to revoke (along with establishing the Supreme Court's power of judicial review), so the Civil War established that, absent an affirmative right to leave the Union, states cannot dissociate themselves from it if they are properly represented, and the Tenth Amendment is a truism - the states have only those powers which the Federal government has not arrogated to itself.
QED.
By contrast, the secession of the Southern states was the exit from a nation of states represented in Congress, able to vote for President and with all the rights enshrined in the Constitution, on the grounds that the states wanted to preserve the right to determine whether or not they could buy, sell and own other human beings. Even Jefferson Davis realized that the moral grounds for the South's existence were shaky, and the irony of it all is that Davis was far more of an autocrat in the South than Lincoln was in the North, for reasons of expediency.
Just as Marbury v. Madison declared that the power to appoint does not automatically grant the power to revoke (along with establishing the Supreme Court's power of judicial review), so the Civil War established that, absent an affirmative right to leave the Union, states cannot dissociate themselves from it if they are properly represented, and the Tenth Amendment is a truism - the states have only those powers which the Federal government has not arrogated to itself.
QED.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
To all of my British friends here - Get Over It!
24/10/2011 02:09:32 AM
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"Treason never prospers, what's the reason? If it prospers, none dare call it treason."
24/10/2011 04:37:20 AM
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Your knowledge of the English Civil War/Revolution is execrable
24/10/2011 05:04:53 AM
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Sorry, I get them mixed up because they kept going back and forth from James to Charles.
24/10/2011 05:29:19 AM
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It's a false analogy to compare the Civil War with the Declaration of Independence.
24/10/2011 05:38:04 AM
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